virginia tech???
04-19-2007, 11:41 PM
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Re: virginia tech???
Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
04-20-2007, 12:18 AM
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Re: virginia tech???
Originally Posted by stevenb
Arizona is an open carry state
Our violent crime rate is 18% lower than any other state that prohibits firearms.
Our violent crime rate is 18% lower than any other state that prohibits firearms.
Originally Posted by stevenb
I'm sorry, but when did it become illegal for students to own weapons in the first place? Because they own a gun that makes them something less than a citizen? I'm confused.
And you're right people do circumvent the checks and balances in owning a gun... And generally it's because they're criminals.
And you're right people do circumvent the checks and balances in owning a gun... And generally it's because they're criminals.
Originally Posted by stevenb
Your whole "someone else should protect me" ideology is retarded.
It's what those people at Virginia tech believed too... Look where it got them.
It's what the kids at columbine thought... look where it got them. (though I'm not advocating firearm ownage for a bunch of highschool kids... the faculty could have been armed)
It's what postal workers, and other federal employees have thought.. look at where it got them.
Anyone else noticing a trend?
Your whole reasoning of them "looking bad" is ------- illogical. PEOPLE ARE ------- DEAD because noone could retaliate in a sufficient manner to stop this person. Just like people died in columbine, because noone could retaliate / defend themselves. When will people ------- learn?
Oh, and as far as where I grew up... I grew up getting my *** kicked by wetbacks in sunnyslope phoenix... listening to people get shot all the time and other ----. So don't preach to me about middle class and upper class referring to where I grew up.
---- went down in columbine did they allow there students to go to schools carrying guns?? no...
---- happen to postal workers and federal employess...do they allow them to go to work carrying guns? no...
anyone else noticing a trend? yes...
Because no school or work in there right mind is going for that solutions.
and your example of you growing up..sorry about you being bitter in life cuz you got your *** kicked by mexicans and you know everything cuz you've LISTEN about people getting shot all the time..
04-20-2007, 12:20 AM
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Re: virginia tech???
Originally Posted by BlackDragon
once again..we are talking about schools not state..you keep making examples about other things when i was clearly talking about schools
when did i ever said it was illegal for students to carry guns or thats not making them a citizens
Never said i RATHER have someone protect me than me protect myself...
---- went down in columbine did they allow there students to go to schools carrying guns?? no...
---- happen to postal workers and federal employess...do they allow them to go to work carrying guns? no...
anyone else noticing a trend? yes...
Because no school or work in there right mind is going for that solutions.
and your example of you growing up..sorry about you being bitter in life cuz you got your *** kicked by mexicans and you know everything cuz you've LISTEN about people getting shot all the time..
when did i ever said it was illegal for students to carry guns or thats not making them a citizens
Never said i RATHER have someone protect me than me protect myself...
---- went down in columbine did they allow there students to go to schools carrying guns?? no...
---- happen to postal workers and federal employess...do they allow them to go to work carrying guns? no...
anyone else noticing a trend? yes...
Because no school or work in there right mind is going for that solutions.
and your example of you growing up..sorry about you being bitter in life cuz you got your *** kicked by mexicans and you know everything cuz you've LISTEN about people getting shot all the time..
Once again I reiterate... the ***** wouldn't have gone to school to shoot up the place if he knew that there were other students there with guns that would mow him down when he started his shooting spree.
And people will continue to die in mass numbers because no school or business gives a ---- about their employees or student's lives. Nor will they ever be "properly" equipped to handle a situation like that... because it is... afterall... A GUN FREE ZONE.
I was saving you the whole "sob" story of seeing people shot in my life.. cause it doesn't apply to this whole talk.
04-20-2007, 12:29 AM
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Re: virginia tech???
Originally Posted by BlackDragon
---- went down in columbine did they allow there students to go to schools carrying guns?? no...
and your example of you growing up..sorry about you being bitter in life cuz you got your *** kicked by mexicans and you know everything cuz you've LISTEN about people getting shot all the time..
and your example of you growing up..sorry about you being bitter in life cuz you got your *** kicked by mexicans and you know everything cuz you've LISTEN about people getting shot all the time..
these college students ARE ADULTS. and should be able to exercise their consitutional right to keep and bear arms. end of story
04-20-2007, 12:30 AM
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Re: virginia tech???
Originally Posted by stevenb
The whole relevance is missing you. Violent criminals do not perpetrate their acts against people whom they believe are armed. Look up the numerous studies.
Once again I reiterate... the ***** wouldn't have gone to school to shoot up the place if he knew that there were other students there with guns that would mow him down when he started his shooting spree.
And people will continue to die in mass numbers because no school or business gives a ---- about their employees or student's lives. Nor will they ever be "properly" equipped to handle a situation like that... because it is... afterall... A GUN FREE ZONE.
I was saving you the whole "sob" story of seeing people shot in my life.. cause it doesn't apply to this whole talk.
Once again I reiterate... the ***** wouldn't have gone to school to shoot up the place if he knew that there were other students there with guns that would mow him down when he started his shooting spree.
And people will continue to die in mass numbers because no school or business gives a ---- about their employees or student's lives. Nor will they ever be "properly" equipped to handle a situation like that... because it is... afterall... A GUN FREE ZONE.
I was saving you the whole "sob" story of seeing people shot in my life.. cause it doesn't apply to this whole talk.
how the hell do you know what the kid would and would not do. He didn't care if he made it obvious by writing down how crazy he is or shooting 32 people and then killing himself..so im pretty sure he could care less if it was a gun free zone or not..but u can read minds.
and your whole example of people and employees not caring about people..im not even going to get into that...
and your "sob" story..well..if you say what you say is true the reason why you seeing people get shot all the time has to do with people bringing and carrying guns and supporting my fact that they ARE people who abuse their power while having guns...
04-20-2007, 12:31 AM
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Re: virginia tech???
Originally Posted by stevenb
roflcopter, you spent the time to bring up another thread that has nothing to do with this one. Good job, liberal fuckass.
Killers, such as the one here and the ones in Columbine don't give a ---- if the potential "victims" have guns or not. They want to die anyways, hence the suicide.
Once again I say "Guns are for pussies"
04-20-2007, 12:33 AM
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Re: virginia tech???
Originally Posted by random-strike
highschool students are not legally old enough to have or buy a pistol, but it doesn't stop them obviously. laws don't stop criminals thats why they are criminals.
these college students ARE ADULTS. and should be able to exercise their consitutional right to keep and bear arms. end of story
these college students ARE ADULTS. and should be able to exercise their consitutional right to keep and bear arms. end of story
they do have that right..but schools who's purpose to have students there to study have the right to not allow guns on their property.
I believe right to bear arms to but if you wanted to come in my house with your gun you think im going to let you
