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Old 04-19-2007, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenb
You're implying that the majority of gun owners are immature retards.

I assure you that anyone who goes through the process of LEGALLY obtaining a weapon isn't a ------- dipstick and knows at the very least how to operate it and hit a target.

Blanket generalizations about weapons are what hippy ****** liberals do. They ------ propaganda about mass hysteria and problems.. when HISTORY ------- SHOWS US that when other's are armed in a situation like this.. it ends earlier.. rather than 32 people dead later... and the whole "everyone will be shooting everyone over this that or the other thing" is disproven.. as legal gun owners tend to be more mature than your run of the mill punk *** kids.

JESUS ------- CHRIST are you people retarded?
You sir know what your talking about and I totally agree.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
You sir know what your talking about and I totally agree.
I used to own a glock23 and had my CCW.

I never got the chance to use my right to bear arms to protect anyone.. or even myself. But had I had the chance, I would have shot some ----------er if I felt my life or someone else's life was in danger.

I unfortunately am with a liberal gf that doesn't like weapons... knives, anything... but I've been working her over on purchasing another glock23.

I will win her over soon.


On a side note.

Even if 50% of the people who were carrying weapons didn't regularly practice with their weapons.. there are still 50% of them who do.

When most violent criminals are asked what they fear the most about their victims... they respond with:

A) They might be armed.
B) They might fight back.

I don't think this ------- ***** would have done ---- had he known that alot of the students were packing weapons they could retaliate with.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenb

WRONG.

You're implying that the majority of gun owners are immature retards.

I assure you that anyone who goes through the process of LEGALLY obtaining a weapon isn't a ------- dipstick and knows at the very least how to operate it and hit a target.

Blanket generalizations about weapons are what hippy ****** liberals do. They ------ propaganda about mass hysteria and problems.. when HISTORY ------- SHOWS US that when other's are armed in a situation like this.. it ends earlier.. rather than 32 people dead later... and the whole "everyone will be shooting everyone over this that or the other thing" is disproven.. as legal gun owners tend to be more mature than your run of the mill punk *** kids.

JESUS ------- CHRIST are you people retarded?
wtf r u talking about? when did i say majority of gun owners don't know how to use a gun? not once read again. We were talking about students being allow to bring guns and i said SOME wouldn't be mature enough to know how to use them not all. Read my ---- again. And if your saying that there aren't going to be students who are listed under what i listed your full of ----. And not every single one of them would want to go through a process of legally having a gun. Some will say ---- it i'll just get one. How I konw? BECAUSE PEOPLE DO THAT NOW.

you just look retard by just putting words in my mouth and not even reading what i just wrote
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:49 PM
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Statistics show that violent crime in areas where civilians are allowed to open carry is 18% lower than any place where gun restrictions are in effect.
for what area the middle and high class?? your acting like ---- like this dont happen everyday because it does. but it happens in areas people don't give a ---- about because its not a environment they want to live in. People who do bring guns to school today (and it not being legal) fear for there lives. Even if allowing them to carry weapons to VT and having all that process the resgistration of students want to go to that school will drop. Why go to a college were they allow student to carry weapons when i can go to another college were the security is better and I don't have to worry bout someone shooting me on accident? that make VT look bad and the council for that school would never go for that. There too many negative to go against that college if they went for that. And they aren't going to allow that for every single university get real thats never going to happen
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:14 PM
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for what area the middle and high class?? your acting like ---- like this dont happen everyday because it does. but it happens in areas people don't give a ---- about because its not a environment they want to live in. People who do bring guns to school today (and it not being legal) fear for there lives. Even if allowing them to carry weapons to VT and having all that process the resgistration of students want to go to that school will drop. Why go to a college were they allow student to carry weapons when i can go to another college were the security is better and I don't have to worry bout someone shooting me on accident? that make VT look bad and the council for that school would never go for that. There too many negative to go against that college if they went for that. And they aren't going to allow that for every single university get real thats never going to happen
Arizona is an open carry state.

Our violent crime rate is 18% lower than any other state that prohibits firearms.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:17 PM
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wtf r u talking about? when did i say majority of gun owners don't know how to use a gun? not once read again. We were talking about students being allow to bring guns and i said SOME wouldn't be mature enough to know how to use them not all. Read my ---- again. And if your saying that there aren't going to be students who are listed under what i listed your full of ----. And not every single one of them would want to go through a process of legally having a gun. Some will say ---- it i'll just get one. How I konw? BECAUSE PEOPLE DO THAT NOW.

you just look retard by just putting words in my mouth and not even reading what i just wrote
I'm sorry, but when did it become illegal for students to own weapons in the first place? Because they own a gun that makes them something less than a citizen? I'm confused.

And you're right people do circumvent the checks and balances in owning a gun... And generally it's because they're criminals.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:21 PM
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for what area the middle and high class?? your acting like ---- like this dont happen everyday because it does. but it happens in areas people don't give a ---- about because its not a environment they want to live in. People who do bring guns to school today (and it not being legal) fear for there lives. Even if allowing them to carry weapons to VT and having all that process the resgistration of students want to go to that school will drop. Why go to a college were they allow student to carry weapons when i can go to another college were the security is better and I don't have to worry bout someone shooting me on accident? that make VT look bad and the council for that school would never go for that. There too many negative to go against that college if they went for that. And they aren't going to allow that for every single university get real thats never going to happen

Your whole "someone else should protect me" ideology is retarded.

It's what those people at Virginia tech believed too... Look where it got them.

It's what the kids at columbine thought... look where it got them. (though I'm not advocating firearm ownage for a bunch of highschool kids... the faculty could have been armed)

It's what postal workers, and other federal employees have thought.. look at where it got them.

Anyone else noticing a trend?

Your whole reasoning of them "looking bad" is ------- illogical. PEOPLE ARE ------- DEAD because noone could retaliate in a sufficient manner to stop this person. Just like people died in columbine, because noone could retaliate / defend themselves. When will people ------- learn?

Oh, and as far as where I grew up... I grew up getting my *** kicked by wetbacks in sunnyslope phoenix... listening to people get shot all the time and other ----. So don't preach to me about middle class and upper class referring to where I grew up.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I am most of those things, kinda lukewarm on the US issue, but I really like capitalism. I just think the system is fucked up and wealth doesn't get distributed to the talented people who work for it, which is what capitalism is about.

Am I a liberal loser, Johnny?

yes

there is no distubution of wealth in capatalism, wealth is created not distributed.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:24 PM
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exactly. there is no solution to it. but the worst thing is allowing everyone in there mother to just go ahead and come to school with guns. that just make matters worst. Why? because your going to have some dumb ***** who don't even know how to use a gun and might mess around and shot them or somebody else, play around and try to scare people with it as a joke which would result to other student not wanting to go to that school anymore, or have other psycho who would love to have someone tell them they can come to school with a weapon. Im not saying all students will be that iresponsible but theres what..thousand of students that go there? you think they all would be mature about it? i don't even want to know allowing a woman to come to school with a gun.

the solution to that problem is to better their security and know when to kick out a psycho when there were that many red flags thrown around.
seriously, ANYONE WITHOUT A CRIMINAL RECORD CAN GET A CONCEAL CARRY PERMIT. ANYONE WHO WANTS ONE CAN BUY A GUN AND CARRY IT NON-CONCEALED.

they just didn't allow this on their campus, and they paid for it. the school should be held financially responsable for the shooting. if they say you can't defend yourself on campus, they are completly liable
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