Ron Paul.
#251
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by Jorsher
****, who cares? They don't affect you. They don't make you like boys. Let them have what they want, it's a free country. Making fagism illegal won't change a damn thing. People will still be ****, just like potheads will still do drugs. Are you for freedom, or freedom (as long as you agree with it)?
I assume I'll get called a queer or something for saying this, but who really gives a ----? I don't like being around ****, but they will always be **** and why not just let them do what they want? Them getting their fudge packed at night won't affect me. I'll still be inserting my ***** in vagina with a smile. GOD might say in the bible (which is written by man) that fagism is bad, but if it doesn't affect you, who gives a ----?
Freedom means freedom.
I assume I'll get called a queer or something for saying this, but who really gives a ----? I don't like being around ****, but they will always be **** and why not just let them do what they want? Them getting their fudge packed at night won't affect me. I'll still be inserting my ***** in vagina with a smile. GOD might say in the bible (which is written by man) that fagism is bad, but if it doesn't affect you, who gives a ----?
Freedom means freedom.
they affect our children, they teach our children its morally alright.
I ALREADY SAID NO ONE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO BE A DISGUSTING QUEER
we just don't want you to teach it to kids thats its alright, let the parents do that. currently, liberals in their indoctrination camps (public schools) force their morals on everyones kids weather we like it or not.
#252
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by stevenb
No, you're dancing around the fact that the Executive branch is the one that's "condemning" these people as Military Combatants. Not the Judicial branch who is responsible for such things. Once again proving that you have blind faith in our fucked up government.
Marriage between a man and a woman is the definition because your conservative friends decided that's what it should be.
Marriage between a man and a woman is the definition because your conservative friends decided that's what it should be.
the judicial branch IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO ADMINISTER JUSTICE TO NON US CITIZENS WHO ARE PICKED UP ON A BATTLEFIELD.
and no, people thousands of years ago decided thats what it is.
#253
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
no, **** DO affect us.
they affect our children, they teach our children its morally alright.
I ALREADY SAID NO ONE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO BE A DISGUSTING QUEER
we just don't want you to teach it to kids thats its alright, let the parents do that. currently, liberals in their indoctrination camps (public schools) force their morals on everyones kids weather we like it or not.
they affect our children, they teach our children its morally alright.
I ALREADY SAID NO ONE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO BE A DISGUSTING QUEER
we just don't want you to teach it to kids thats its alright, let the parents do that. currently, liberals in their indoctrination camps (public schools) force their morals on everyones kids weather we like it or not.
They... (including a majority of society)... are teaching our children to be tolerant.
Future generations will be more tolerant of homosexuality, because you cannot stop progress.
When it comes down to it future generations will see homosexuals as people. Not devils, or substandard humans as you see them.
Change is inevitable.
#254
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
you might consider them faults, or us meddling in foreign affairs, but we did it for a noble reason, to fight communism which was poised to take over the world. we supplied arms, funds, and training to the mujahhdeen in Afghanistan in the 80s to fight communism, we supported saddam against iran because we were trying to stop communism, iran was closely allied with the soviet union even if they were not communist.
we did everything for a reason, and the president and everyone in charge at the time only did it because they thought it was the best thing to do at the time, we saved the world from nazism, we saved the world from communism, the united states has never tried to conquer land, or be imperialist, we have never done anything to take over another country, or steal anything from it. the united states is one of the few forces for good in the world, we have fought evil throughout our history and you should be proud. we have made enemies along the way, but it is impossible to avoid, iran has never been our "friend" islamic radicals have been our 'friends". we fought in korea and vietnam to stop the ------ of commuism. the entire world owes us a dept of gratitude of an unimaginable price.
we did everything for a reason, and the president and everyone in charge at the time only did it because they thought it was the best thing to do at the time, we saved the world from nazism, we saved the world from communism, the united states has never tried to conquer land, or be imperialist, we have never done anything to take over another country, or steal anything from it. the united states is one of the few forces for good in the world, we have fought evil throughout our history and you should be proud. we have made enemies along the way, but it is impossible to avoid, iran has never been our "friend" islamic radicals have been our 'friends". we fought in korea and vietnam to stop the ------ of commuism. the entire world owes us a dept of gratitude of an unimaginable price.
Our country is great, and I feel blessed to be a part of it, but we have done some shady ----. It's human nature (possibly instinct among all living things) to try to benefit ourselves. Name one war (other than vietname) where we did not benefit in one way or another?
Why would we spend hundreds of billions to liberate a few hundred thousand sand ers. Fact is, we have a goal there. It isn't terrorism. We don't spend that amount of money (that doesn't exist, due to debt) to try and liberate some random people. USA has a purpose there, and it isn't so that sand- women can walk around without full body-covering clothes.
#255
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
the military is judging them, the people at the guantanamo face military tribunals.
the judicial branch IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO ADMINISTER JUSTICE TO NON US CITIZENS WHO ARE PICKED UP ON A BATTLEFIELD.
and no, people thousands of years ago decided thats what it is.
the judicial branch IS NOT RESPONSIBLE TO ADMINISTER JUSTICE TO NON US CITIZENS WHO ARE PICKED UP ON A BATTLEFIELD.
and no, people thousands of years ago decided thats what it is.
So... who is to judge those that were American citizens on American soil as enemy combatants?
#256
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by stevenb
They... (including a majority of society)... are teaching our children to be tolerant.
Future generations will be more tolerant of homosexuality, because you cannot stop progress.
When it comes down to it future generations will see homosexuals as people. Not devils, or substandard humans as you see them.
Change is inevitable.
#257
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by stevenb
You're seriously ridiculous.
So... who is to judge those that were American citizens on American soil as enemy combatants?
So... who is to judge those that were American citizens on American soil as enemy combatants?
jose paddilla had a civilian trail
#258
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
those are your morals not mine, why are you forcing them on me?
You'll notice that I've not said once that it's right. They're not my beliefs, and I'm not one to make a decision for anyone else what they should or shouldn't do.
But the fact that the rest of society will some day be tolerant and co-exist with homosexuals as if they were.. <gasp> real people.. like they are, regardless of their sexuality.
You cannot change, it's the only constant in our world.
#259
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by Jorsher
I'm not trying to say our government is complete ----, but c'mon...we try to benefit from every war we enter. Not imperialistic? Did you forget all the territories we own, the governments we try to "help create" in other countries, and how many pieces of land in how many countries we own?
Our country is great, and I feel blessed to be a part of it, but we have done some shady ----. It's human nature (possibly instinct among all living things) to try to benefit ourselves. Name one war (other than vietname) where we did not benefit in one way or another?
Why would we spend hundreds of billions to liberate a few hundred thousand sand ers. Fact is, we have a goal there. It isn't terrorism. We don't spend that amount of money (that doesn't exist, due to debt) to try and liberate some random people. USA has a purpose there, and it isn't so that sand- women can walk around without full body-covering clothes.
Our country is great, and I feel blessed to be a part of it, but we have done some shady ----. It's human nature (possibly instinct among all living things) to try to benefit ourselves. Name one war (other than vietname) where we did not benefit in one way or another?
Why would we spend hundreds of billions to liberate a few hundred thousand sand ers. Fact is, we have a goal there. It isn't terrorism. We don't spend that amount of money (that doesn't exist, due to debt) to try and liberate some random people. USA has a purpose there, and it isn't so that sand- women can walk around without full body-covering clothes.
korea?
bosnia?
WWI?
WWII?
what did we gain from those wars? nothing. we have military bases on some of these countries, but they can kick us off anytime they want. they want us there, they needed us there to protect them from communism.
any country we have a base on could tell us to leave anytime they want. THEY DON'T WANT US TO LEAVE. at least the government of that country does not. the iraqi government could tell us to leave at anytime. they don't want us to leave.
#260
Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
no, **** DO affect us.
they affect our children, they teach our children its morally alright.
I ALREADY SAID NO ONE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO BE A DISGUSTING QUEER
we just don't want you to teach it to kids thats its alright, let the parents do that. currently, liberals in their indoctrination camps (public schools) force their morals on everyones kids weather we like it or not.
they affect our children, they teach our children its morally alright.
I ALREADY SAID NO ONE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO BE A DISGUSTING QUEER
we just don't want you to teach it to kids thats its alright, let the parents do that. currently, liberals in their indoctrination camps (public schools) force their morals on everyones kids weather we like it or not.
I've known about the existance of **** since I was learning to read at the age of 4. It doesn't make me interested in the *****, my favorite has always been some -----. Being aware of something doesn't mean that you like/agree with it. It's the same ---- as the civil rights movement. Kids were raised to dislike people of their color... Do you think that just because USA gov't said it's ok to be queer, that all the boys will start ------- people in the ***?? hell no.
Being aware of different people won't change who you are. Being FORCED to dislike a type of person (black, gay, *****) will make you change. Gov't needs to treat everyone equally and let the PEOPLE decide who they want to associate with. You are worried about kids being taught that fagism is right....uhhh what's wrong with it? If you like ------- other queers in the ***, who cares?
Making it legal to like someone won't change your beliefs. Being TOLD that you have to dislike someone because of how they are, or being taugh that it's wrong, WILL cause problems.