AWDstylez

Yea, one of his wacked out, Christian propganda news letters told him so. And seeing as how he has no experience outside of his shack, he wouldn't know any different.


My morals say that homosexuality is ok.

Some tribal guy's morals say that 10 year old girls should be sex slaves.

Catholic church morals back in Inquisition days said that anyone that disagreed should be executed.

Down south morals said slaverly was fine and black people are inferior.

Osama's morals say he should kill you for being an infidel.

Obviously you don't agree with all of these. So yes, you've established your morals as more right than other peoples'. Now explain to me, what makes your's superior?


So then why don't you produce one if they're so easy to find?


I only had to change a few word to turn this into Bush's awsome reasoning for going into Iraq.

Apparently this is all ther reasoning nessesary to do anything today.

stevenb

^5

J-SMITH69

im at work...

http://catholiceducation.org/article...ty/ho0049.html

http://www.narth.com/docs/firstaids.html

http://uwacadweb.uwyo.edu/English2035students/gayeducation/Homosexuality%20and%20Education%20(Adrienne%20Bens on).htm

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5219696

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/050413a.aspx

want more??

http://www.inqueery.com/index.html

http://www.probe.org/homosexuality/g...n-schools.html

http://americansfortruth.com/news/uk...sexuality.html

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/cou...ntary_student/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=1622610

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...13745?lnk=raot

http://www.newswithviews.com/public_...c_schools1.htm

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20922

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=4686

http://www.massresistance.org/media/...inwashing.html

http://www.missionamerica.com/agenda.php?articlenum=27

http://www.forthechildreninc.com/iss.../ExplMode.html

http://www.chick.com/bc/2002/sodomy.asp

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54420

http://www.renewamerica.us/ak/columns/crabb/070310

stevenb

Wow I'm surprised you pasted a link with the catholic church as the first link... You hung yourself out there as a bible thumping conservative.


I could post just as many articles of speculation about how the catholic church intervenes in public schools classes... and call that complete fact.

Did you actually read some of those links?


And dare I ask you what the ---- the UK has to do with US education?
http://americansfortruth.com/news/uk...sexuality.html

N1ghtM0nkey

The idea and threat of being sexually harassed by a homosexual in a physical manner is much greater than that of being harassed physically by a heterosexual. That is fact. If you knew somebody was gay, would you want to take a shower with them every day for 6 months? Would you feel comfortable taking a shower next to a guy who is obviously aroused by the sight of your naked ***? You would have no choice but to deal with it in that situation or report it.

You have no place to call me intolerant of homosexuals. I don't support gay marriage because it's against my religious beliefs - which I stated in a previous post if you were paying attention. I also don't support homosexuals in the armed forces for every reason listed in the link I supplied also in a previous post. If that makes me intolerant of homosexuals - so be it. However my idea of being intolerant against homosexuals is more along the lines of verbal and physical assault upon the sight of a homosexual couple - which I am not.

I also don't believe any physically / mentally able person should be allowed to serve. I'm sure you're like "wtf why?" because there are such things as criminals and generally sketchy people. Of course you can fit those people such as drug users (even casual), convicted felons, homosexuals, and whatever else into either the mentally/physically unfit category....but then what do you end up with?

You end up with the system already in place.

Maybe some day you should pull your head out of your *** and stop judging people, perhaps get the ---- off of your soap box and ditch the "holier than thou" attitude. Just because you're obviously a bleeding heart liberal doesn't make you any better than the people you disagree with. You think that because I don't approve of homosexuals in the military or homosexuals getting married that I don't understand homosexuals or don't know some homosexuals myself.

If we're going to be throwing around insults like that, why don't you diversify yourself and learn about the other part of the country that isn't liberal instead of instantly rebuking everything they stand for even if nothing they've said is offensive to you.

Nothing prior to this post was offensive to you, or homosexuals - I have been very patient and factual in everything I have said....yet you STILL insulted me rather than actually disagree and provide a substantial rebuttal. That, sir, is why this post is mildly offensive.

stevenb

Wow.

Okay, so... if I'm following your argument here.

Because you think that someone is mentally undressing you, or coddling your body. They should be denied their rights as a citizen?

I've not attacked random-strike because he thinks homosexuals are the devil and they are substandard humans. I have only attacked his arguments that they are lesser people. And I continue to insult you, and your argument because it's baseless. Your argument against gays serving in the military is almost as justified as prosecuting men for rape / other crimes for simply looking at another woman. No matter their intentions. It's ------- ridiculous, and I'm allowed to point out how ignorant your logic is, and call you stupid. Just like I'm allowed to call random-strike stupid, and ignorant.

I grew up in the catholic church... I already have experienced plenty of your guy's hate. Even though your bible states pretty clearly to treat others how you would like to be treated... i still find people of the cloth or the "book" to be very indignant and hateful to those who don't share their beliefs.

N1ghtM0nkey

STOP RIGHT THERE. Entering the United States Military is absolutely, positively NOT....again NOT a right. Period. It is a privilege.

Again, refer to the document I linked several posts back.

Where have I said they're lesser people? How is my argument baseless!? It is absolutely NOT baseless. I don't approve of gay marriage, it's against my religious beliefs as well as how I was raised. How can my argument be baseless if that part of it isn't even an argument? It's a ------- opinion that YOU do not like. I will now refer you to the first Amendment.

My argument against gays in the military is that, as the document I linked states, it would be detrimental to morale of the other soldiers.

My argument in that department is that it would also not be safe for homosexuals either since there is no doubt that they would be subjected to much greater discrimination and hazing than a heterosexual would be. Perhaps if you had even been to boot camp before you would understand that people are picked out by drill instructors for any reason....perhaps you're tall, perhaps you're short, maybe you've got pigment in your skin of ANY COLOR because not all drill instructors are white....in fact most aren't.

You ask pretty much any marine if he/she thinks homosexuals should be allowed in the military and you will more than likely get a response along the lines of "not in my corps."

You failed to point out my hate towards homosexuals. I hate them because I don't think they would be treated fairly in the military and I don't approve of them getting married? I don't think so.

Focus now, point out my hate towards homosexuals. Can you do it?

stevenb

Gee, I was under the impression that any citizen who proved themselves physically and mentally capable, while not being convicted of violent crimes or felonies was eligible to join the military?

Maybe I'm wrong?

Who cares? You seem to think that I think that they deserve special treatment or niceness from anyone they're around. They don't, they're a marine, pilot, or grunt just like you. They deserve the same treatment you do. If that includes hazing, or other things, then so be it. They joined up, they wanted it.. they'll get it.

People need to look past the fact that they're homosexual and realize they're still people, and they're still citizens of this country with an equal opportunity to give to the most selfless thing there is.. and serve in our military. When it comes down to it like John said, if they can pull the trigger and act under military action... then why should they be discriminated against while participating in the military?

Once again you link and base your argument on the possibility of them doing something. Should we lock up all men or prosecute them for sexual harassment cause they could look at a woman enticingly? Would that be unconstitutional? Sure it would.

J-SMITH69

im not catholic, i do not go to church, i have zero to do with any church.

you're a clown. and calling you a retard is an insult to retards

the reason for the UK article is because thats the model for liberal socialists here.

and that is what socialism will get you. in europe its a hate crime to say being gay is wrong. do you want that? thats what you will get.

J-SMITH69

everyone can see the basic fact of your disgusting liberal beliefs.

YOU WANT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BE TOLERANT OF **** AND EVERYTHING ELSE THEY DON'T LIKE

ME SAYING **** ARE GROSS IS MY OPINION AND MY 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHT

YOU SAYING **** ARE GREAT ROLE MODELS IS YOUR 1ST AMENDMENT RIGHT

FORCING ME TO BE TOLERANT OF **** IN MY PRIVATE LIFE IS WRONG. THAT IS YOU FORCING YOUR MORALS. ME SAYING **** ARE DSIGUSTING IS NOT FORCING ANYTHING ON YOU.

YOU FORCING ME TO "NOT DISCRIMINATE" AGAINST THEM IS YOU FORCING YOUR MORALS. IF I "DISCRIMINATE" AGAINST THEM I'LL GO TO JAIL.

YOUR MORALS NOT MINE. THANKS FOR FORCING THEM.