QikEnuF

Tip, it isn't terribly hard to get a B series motor up into the 400whp range. Hell, D series guys have done it with the Vitara piston setup. The LSx series comes into it's own above about 500bhp n/a and 800bhp boosted. And why hate on imported 4 cylinder motors? Did you know the Camaro was actually made in Canada? Makes that whole deal an import too. Oh, and on the 4 cylinder import note (think this was pointed out before) but VW beetles with their little 4 cylinder motors will dust your Lexus even with an LSx swap. By the way, do you even know what the ---- it takes to put an LSx into a Lexus platform? Find a 2JZ, run a pair of like GT30R snails, and just be happy with a repeatable 500whp on a half-assed tune. We aren't bashing you for talking about "a wicked v8 Gm motor that produced 400whp witha cams and good exhaust," we are bashing you because you seem to think (a) 400whp is a figure unobtainable by anything else (b) that the LSx is the be-all end-all of high horsepower setups. Want to talk an outrageous swap? Indy Heads Hemi Race Legend 632ci (Might be off>) will destroy just about any of the N/A LSx setups you want to try to google search for. So before you declare the LSx the king kong of motors, take a look at that. It'd be a PITA to drive on the street, mostly due to the insane 16.2:1 SCR (Again, might be off) and the outrageous camshaft profile. But then again, you can get the Street Legend, built with 10:1 SCR, and spray it and have similar results.

You haven't enlightened anyone here, you have just spewed ignorance for 4 pages. You clearly don't know ---- about what it takes to make a repeatable 400whp setup, or anything about the LSx series motors. If you did, maybe you could spec out exactly what your LSx build would be, go to a JY and grab one out of a Camaro, and ------- build the bitch. Until then, BAN

Henry

Paxtonboost

Henry is a trader and should be hanged or shot.. You probably copy what you say from LSx forums...A true poser and trader...You are worse then dog ----..

Breaking news - I am not banned yet...I may be on life support, but I am still posting and breathing on HTM........

I now officially dislike one person on this forum....His name is Henry and he is a bitch that needs to be slapped repeadily. .....

Turdbo

just a little correction

QikEnuF

Actually, not too many people on some of the LS forums know about the aftermarket 499ci block. Doubt many care, because it is spec'd out for hardcore 1/4 mile efforts, less so for the street. Also, it is traitor, so your english is as lacking as your technical knowledge. Oh, and how am I a traitor? Because I pointed out some technical stuff regarding the LSx series motors as well as some SBF info and didn't agree with your bullshit remarks? Your ignorance shines threw like no one else I have heard about on this forum (except maybe Josh for thinking his business would succeed). Actually, google search me for teh company that produces the 499ci block, bet ya you won't find it buddy. Just because I know a bit about the Gen III small block family doesn't mean I have to copy from google/other forums like yourself.

You just go off and list random generic parts such as Cam and Exhaust will get an LS1 powered car to 400whp. Takes a bit more than just "a cam" and "an exhaust" to pull that one off buddy. You might have been swinging from me nuts with my tidbit regarding the LS7 responding to specific mods and making an extra 100bhp, but you fail to realize that the LS7 is a completely different animal from any other LS series or SBC in general. The LS7 heads are some of the best flowing heads from the factory (if not the best) at both low lift and high lift CFM. The LS1 heads, while good, are nowhere near as engineered as the LS7's. The LS1 top end from the factory doesn't breath so great up at the higher lift values. If you knew anything about the motor, you might realize this. The heads flow very well, but they need some work to get up around 400whp with just a camshaft and "an exhaust."

By the way, what the ---- is "an exhaust" anyways? If you want to "Talk shop and not head" then don't ------- generalize a whole goddamn system. While we are on the topic of shop talk, and since this is HomeMadeTurbo.com, here you go for a decent street setup on an LS1....

-4" Bore+4" Stroker Crank to make a good 402ci (math might be off?? its late)
-Good set of forged con rods (howards racing cams maybe? eagle?)
-Dished pistons (forged or aluminum if you want to be fancy) aim for like 10.0-10.5:1 SCR (I know Mahle makes a nice set of aluminum 9:1 SCR Pistons if you just want the boosted power) for good off-boost power curve.
-LS6 Intake Manifold (maybe a custom sheet metal setup if you throw down $3,000+ on a manifold)
-Good set of heads, maybe TPI Specialties Ported setup? 64cc Combustion Chamber and 218cc Runners (Does ProTopline make LSx heads? Maybe them?)
-Turbo(s) either run a single 67mm PTE, or, my personal favorite, dual GT35RS snails, all depends on what you want. With the higher 10-10.5:1 SCR, the 67mm shouldn't be hard to spool at all, might even get away with a pair if you go with the sheetmetal fab'd intake manifold and some nicer aftermarket casting heads.
-Run a pair of wastegates with either turbo setup, Innovative 44mm's or the equivalent Tial's.
-Should be good to go with some coated stainless headers, but for the baller setup, look into Burn's Stainless for some Inconel (spelled?) Of course, I don't think you should need to use that kind of expensive material for anything other than a huge (88mm+) twin turbo setup, which would really be for a drag-only car.
-Go large on the exhaust, depending on the space beneath the Lexus. 3" per side should be adequate for a sub-700hp effort, go bigger as the power increases.
-Transmission: Have ------- fun getting your current tranny to bolt up. See if a TH400 will squeeze in underneath. Run a lower stalll speed, maybe 2,500-3,000RPM. Not sure if you would want a T56 behind it, maybe a Lenco style tranny though. I don't know, this all theoretical.
-Rear end-Ford 9", gearing close to 33, play around with your own ratios if you actually pull this one off.

Think I just about covered the drivetrain/powertrain, other than the requisite axels/tires and some of the misc. motor stuff (ARP studs all over, bearings, etc). Fuel/Ignition should be nothing less than a standalone setup on the level of a Big Stuff 3 setup or equivalent. That enough "shop talk" for you? If not, and you are actually serious about pulling this off, pm me if you are still allowed on the site. Be neat to see an boosted LSx in a Lexus. Haven't ever seen one, actually. If you are going to call me a traitor, don't do it because I know a bit more about the subject you brought up than you do.

Henry


Sneak Edit: By the way Paxton, I am glad you dislike me. At least I am disliked for knowing my ---- and not for talking a bunch of ignorant bullshit about a topic I know nothing about.

iceracercrx

Henry,
World Products makes a new block it's called the Warlock.

Randy

Turdbo

damn qikenuf...you know your ----....and dont the ls2 and ls1 have different cam profiles?..and the heads are a little different?...correct me if im wrong... but i was at work and during a porsche 944 club their were a few 944's with ls1's and 1 had an ls2 i noticed the ls2 powered 944 came outa the turns alot faster than the cars with the ls1..but then again its a road course and cornering speeds are often compared by your suspension rim and tire set up then the actual motor itself

noboostedEGo

QikEnuf = The n00b (on hmt that is) sent from the heavens to make up for recent dumbfuck assclown n00bs, i.e. xx98faggottxx/Nospower and paxton.

I'm actually learning something now!! Thanks.

Nospower

Henry read that out of a book...I read the same book on Gm engines..

Anyway, the crate engines aren't too shabby too like the almight 572 GM Crate....Just a little more spending cash is needed for like 3 times as much....

Paxton thanks for all your info and suggestions you have been a way bigger help then this Henry guy...

QikEnuF

LMAO? A book? I do have my share of books, but they are on things like Triumphs, Rolls Royce's, Turbochargers (corkey bell, little biased, but a good technical read), factory manuals for a Mk VII Jaguar, 1957 Bel Air, things of that nature. Nothing on GM engines though, so sorry to disappoint.

Turdbo, might be the better torque low range torque figures of the LS2 due to the .3 extra liters of displacement. Early LS1's had a slightly larger camshaft, because they had to go with a smaller bumpstick when GM threw on the LS6 intake manifold. Not sure what year though... The LS2 runs the old 405hp LS6 heads as well, which are a good bit better than the stock LS1 pieces. Raised intake ports, and a redesigned combustion chamber shape help it make the jump from 10.x:1 (x is a lower number, like 1 or 2 i think) in the LS1 to like 11.0:1 in the LS2. All that goes along with the improved exhaust manifolds and other bits and pieces like certain sensors (knock and one other) being moved around. They are still very similar motors, just with upgraded parts.

And Paxton/Nospower, (a) you have a split personality, (b) you didn't post ---- for info, other than just generalized statements. And the 572 Crate motor is a piece of ---- for how much you pay. Isn't it around like $15-$18k?

Henry

iceracercrx

None of you guys know ---- about the LS series motor!!!

Randy