The LS1 Engine swap....
10-19-2006, 06:54 PM
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Re: The LS1 Engine swap....
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10-19-2006, 07:21 PM
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Re: The LS1 Engine swap....
I hate to jump into such an assanine arguement, but reading this thread put a bitter taste in my mouth. I'm going to have to agree that the LS1 can be a far superior motor. I live in a city where LS1s are common place and few are virgin. I've seen the potential firsthand. I've also seen a single turbo setup on a z28 camaro and a twin turbo setup on a trans-am, and its nothing short of amazing. Theres a street legal '00 corvette that runs 10s, w/ 700hp on spray. So, I can't sit idly by and have people who haven't done the research knock on one of the greatest v8s IMHO ever produced. As far as being too expensive? ls1tech has cars for sale all the time for under 8k. Also, you must take in account the numerous free mods that increase hp for absolutely nothing more than time. So, I wouldn't look past the ls1 just because it doesnt fit into your picture perfect world of king kong 4 cylinders. As far as the "if japan had 30 yrs" well take in account that the 346ci LS1 makes more power stock than a lot of the BBs of decades past. Also being aluminum its very light for a v8. Don't forget about the wieght transfer arguement, the rwd ls1 will put down more traction than a fwd 4 w/ equal sized tires. I'm sorry, but I must argue on behalf of the push rod. Now instead of immediately dismissing it, think of the obvious potential. Turbo ls1? i know firsthand, nearly untouchable.
I'm prepared to put my flame suit on, but first keep in mind that I have an LS-T and I also know the potential of a turbo 4 cylinder as well. So I'm not really argueing the ls1 will always be better, I'm just argueing its not an engine to be underestimated. the end.
I'm prepared to put my flame suit on, but first keep in mind that I have an LS-T and I also know the potential of a turbo 4 cylinder as well. So I'm not really argueing the ls1 will always be better, I'm just argueing its not an engine to be underestimated. the end.
10-19-2006, 09:31 PM
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Re: The LS1 Engine swap....
Originally Posted by fysh
I hate to jump into such an assanine arguement, but reading this thread put a bitter taste in my mouth. I'm going to have to agree that the LS1 can be a far superior motor. I live in a city where LS1s are common place and few are virgin. I've seen the potential firsthand. I've also seen a single turbo setup on a z28 camaro and a twin turbo setup on a trans-am, and its nothing short of amazing. Theres a street legal '00 corvette that runs 10s, w/ 700hp on spray. So, I can't sit idly by and have people who haven't done the research knock on one of the greatest v8s IMHO ever produced. As far as being too expensive? ls1tech has cars for sale all the time for under 8k. Also, you must take in account the numerous free mods that increase hp for absolutely nothing more than time. So, I wouldn't look past the ls1 just because it doesnt fit into your picture perfect world of king kong 4 cylinders. As far as the "if japan had 30 yrs" well take in account that the 346ci LS1 makes more power stock than a lot of the BBs of decades past. Also being aluminum its very light for a v8. Don't forget about the wieght transfer arguement, the rwd ls1 will put down more traction than a fwd 4 w/ equal sized tires. I'm sorry, but I must argue on behalf of the push rod. Now instead of immediately dismissing it, think of the obvious potential. Turbo ls1? i know firsthand, nearly untouchable.
I'm prepared to put my flame suit on, but first keep in mind that I have an LS-T and I also know the potential of a turbo 4 cylinder as well. So I'm not really argueing the ls1 will always be better, I'm just argueing its not an engine to be underestimated. the end.
I'm prepared to put my flame suit on, but first keep in mind that I have an LS-T and I also know the potential of a turbo 4 cylinder as well. So I'm not really argueing the ls1 will always be better, I'm just argueing its not an engine to be underestimated. the end.
I'd love to have an LS1. I love the engine, just not the typical cars they come in. No doubt the vette is sweet.. just too much money for me.
I'd throw the LS1 in an RX7 in a heartbeat. No doubt they perform better and more reliably than any turbo Honda, but I still like the underdog thing that turbo Honda has.
10-19-2006, 10:41 PM
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Re: The LS1 Engine swap....
LS1's and all of the LS series motors are bad ***. Good power and good Mpg for a V8. I have helped put a few ls1's in rock crawer buggies with Turn key motors wiring harness and ecu. With turn keys harness and ecu the ls1 is putting out 420 crank hp in stock fourm. The price for a ls1 from a wrecking yard with out harness is around 3k and the harness and computer is 1400. So for 4500 or so you can have over 400hp swap with a five wire hook up. A Ls1 would be a good swap in a s10 or small rwd car but i think that i would rather have a turbo'd b series that handles well. I guess it is just what your looking for in the end.
steve
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10-20-2006, 02:44 AM
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Re: The LS1 Engine swap....
Originally Posted by random-strike
d and b series honda motors are very easy to take apart and put back together
small/big block chevy motors are very easy to take apart and put back together
which is easier, not sure... cause they're both so damn simple.
and leroy there is probably five hundred thousand street driven 302cid NA mustangs that would beat your civic.
small/big block chevy motors are very easy to take apart and put back together
which is easier, not sure... cause they're both so damn simple.
and leroy there is probably five hundred thousand street driven 302cid NA mustangs that would beat your civic.
for the record I never got beaten by a mustang. and I race them a lot. thats not a statement saying my car is the fastest, I am just saying I havent seen a mustang fast enough in my neck of the woods.
10-20-2006, 09:16 AM
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Re: The LS1 Engine swap....
It really doesn't matter what motor or car you have. How fast it will be completely depends on the person building the setup and the person driving. Hence why I have beat turbo LS/Vtec hatches that supposedly run mid 11's and trap 120+ mph. The guy that had that car was a complete moron and my setup was dialed in pretty well on the street. I could have had an LS1, b-series, rotary, etc... and done the same thing.
10-20-2006, 09:47 AM
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Re: The LS1 Engine swap....
lol, sorry to just jump in... but this paxton guy is a ------ homo... i respect ls1's... a fellow HMT member thats a friend of mine, has had a D16 in his 89 hatch @ 9psi (fun as hell), and he's got a B18 @ 14psi right now, also fun as hell... ive seen 600whp boosted camaro's and i TOTALLY respect that. but hey everyone has their own tastes... this paxton guy is obviously a jackass and likes to start arguments, if you wanna swap a LS1 into your lexus, go ahead and do it ya jackass, do you need our aproval? why ask, if you think EVERYONE is a jackass... btw, about the lag/traction issue w/4cylinder's a while back... i drive a T25'd boosted KA S14... torqey as hell, and traction is NOT an issue... spool is not an issue if i launch from 2k, lol.... i only read on this forum, but damn, i had to add my .02
