hebijake

Jesus commisioned his followers to go preaching, so that's why we go door to door now adays.

96turboracer

Honestly I'm suprised, but this hasn't been an argument and people are taking the information pretty good. Lot better than I thought they would anyway.

By the way, y'all might want to run from my dogs (actually my parents dogs, but still)



The female (spotted one) is about 140lbs now and the male is up to 189lbs- we expect him to crest 200 soon

jinxy

I think you're the only one on here thats not trying to anthromorphize god and has a good grasp of quantom physics.

I disagree with some of the set threorys. Llike the big bang created spacetime. Spacetime must have existed before then, since most of hte bigbang theorys come about from antimater colideing with normal matter. There might have been nothing happening at the time, but they're still had to be matter. Even if there was no one to measure the time it still certinatly could have existed. There was deffinatly enough energy to make a universe sized explosion that is still moving. Hell if you go with the fractle theory we could just be sitting on a proton in the atom of some other huge form or entity. Also, i dont beleive space time stops in black holes. Although the provide enough gravitational pull to bent light and suck it in and crush all of the matter within its reach i dont think you can really base time on light. Can time be proven to be a product of light?

Tom-Guy

Anthropomorphise god, you mean? I'm guilty, sue me. As for his grasp on quantum physics... ah, no, he doesn't.

They do? And did you miss the part where it's not theory anymore, they've found proof?

Reddy

The Hawking radiation does prove that black holes will eventually evaporate and as slow as it may be particles are able to excape from a black hole. I said at the event horizon time stands still. I should correct myself, it doesn't stand still but it comes very damn close. I don't want to make a big long post becuase nobody reads them but as you approach the speed of light time slows down. Theoretically if you travel at the speed of light time should stand still. As you get closer to the event horizon (and could survive the gravity) you would speed up, comming close to the speed of light. Since everything is relative, your time should theoretically stand still while time outside the black hole moves at its regular speed. Thus goes the old saying, everything is relative. You can't travel into your own future but you can travel into someone else's future




Yes. Our understanding of time is based on the speed of light. Before Einstein it was believed that time was constant, but the theory of relativity changed this. According to the theory of relativity nothing can cross the light barrier, it is the universal fastest you can go. Read the above post time is relative to an individual. My time is different from your time. If I travel at half the speed of light I will age half as slow as you do. If the speed of light is not the basis of time than the whole theory of relativity is wrong and modern physics is on the wrong track.


Time is a creation of man and is not as important as we believe it is.

Darkelvis

Ok, I seriously just wanted to bitch about the people preaching to me at my door and refusing to leave. But this is WAAAAAY different than I thought this thread would turn out.

Oh yea, did I mention that I'm an ordained minister? Universal Life Church for the win!

Reddy

How do you know what I know? I know you get off by making yourself seem smarter than everyone else but don't go and assume I'm ignorant on the subject.

jinxy

I dont beleive that time is based off the speed of light. Just like the thought of time travel. In theroy. if someone could travel faster than the speed of light. All i think you would be able to see is maybe a planet rotating backwards in its orbit. If your eye would even be able ot catch any light at that speed. the light still exists and its still moving from the actions that happend thousands of years ago, But i in no way shape or form think that it has any effect on the ageing of matter.

Reddy

the theory of relativity says you cannot travel faster than the speed of light. Becuase than you would be traveling backwards in time. Answer this than:

If the sun exploded, it would take 8 minutes for the light to reach Earth, right? Since traveling at the speed of light it takes 8 minutes to get to the sun. Well than if the sun explodes, did it explode in the past since it actually happened 8 minutes before we will know about it? If time isn't based off light than when did the explosion of the sun happen? Was it in our past, or in present day time on the sun? Who's time is that 8 minute delay in if time is a universal constant?

jinxy

well the problem with earth time is that its based on the orbit around the sun and the rotation of the earth on its axis. If the light takes 8 minnutes for the explosion on the sun to reach the earth then the explosion will have happend in the past by the moment we realised it. But while the explosion was happening it would be in the present. I think that you can measure time in light, but I dont think that time is a product or a constant of light. Everything any human perceives is physicaly happening in the past. Its not physicaly noticeable by any human being since its such a short ammount of delay, but their is always a delay in the speed of light and the speed of sound.