your being DRAFTED!...
04-29-2004, 01:55 PM
#111
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Re:your being DRAFTED!...
what gets me about the war is that one of the huge things that got the approval from congress was a report of nukes in iraq that was known to be fake by the person that handed it to bush.
also, it's complete bullshit that they say we've made progress by restoring power in iraq, like they didn't have electricity before, bullshit, our planes blew that ---- up.
also, it's complete bullshit that they say we've made progress by restoring power in iraq, like they didn't have electricity before, bullshit, our planes blew that ---- up.
04-29-2004, 01:57 PM
#112
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Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
And only rich people have kids right? 
It's the same argument from every democrat, "It's the damn rich people. What makes them think they can just be successful without paying us for being lazy." 
And the fact is, We had two choices. To take saddam out of power, or to leave him in. Leaving him in power would have been easy, but anytime you take a leader out of a country it isn't "the American way" to leave the people hanging. Now we're trying to give them stability, and everyones crying. You really think we could have taken saddam out and then told the people, "well, looks like you have to build something on your own?" Yeah, we don't work that way. And if we would have done it that way, the democrats would be crying about how we left the poor people with nothing.
Wally, your a moron. If you were our President we all would have died long ago while you were waiting for international support. hahah. Don't you understand the UN is a joke? They have a reputation for not doing what they say, and if you stick with jokes like that, people don't take you seriously. Just like saddam took all the resolutions so seriously.
So in your eyes we aren't very brave for making the first move, but who'd the fucken clowns be if we were over at the UN doing paperwork still while our country is getting fucked up by whoever wants to do something?
If your not willing to be a man and stand behind your country, then get the ---- outta here. We don't need bitches nagging us anyway.
It's the same argument from every democrat, "It's the damn rich people. What makes them think they can just be successful without paying us for being lazy." And the fact is, We had two choices. To take saddam out of power, or to leave him in. Leaving him in power would have been easy, but anytime you take a leader out of a country it isn't "the American way" to leave the people hanging. Now we're trying to give them stability, and everyones crying. You really think we could have taken saddam out and then told the people, "well, looks like you have to build something on your own?" Yeah, we don't work that way. And if we would have done it that way, the democrats would be crying about how we left the poor people with nothing.
Wally, your a moron. If you were our President we all would have died long ago while you were waiting for international support. hahah. Don't you understand the UN is a joke? They have a reputation for not doing what they say, and if you stick with jokes like that, people don't take you seriously. Just like saddam took all the resolutions so seriously.
So in your eyes we aren't very brave for making the first move, but who'd the fucken clowns be if we were over at the UN doing paperwork still while our country is getting fucked up by whoever wants to do something?
If your not willing to be a man and stand behind your country, then get the ---- outta here. We don't need bitches nagging us anyway.
04-29-2004, 01:58 PM
#113
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Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Some other things to consider is that Bush has no idea how he is going to pass power over, and its going to end up just the same as before and as it has through history. They will elect a leader, he will become a tyrant. He will try to expand his territory and we will be in war again.
This was all so that Bush could tell his daddy he caught saddam.
Though I still wouldn't be surprised if the weapons mysteriously appeared and osama around election time.
This was all so that Bush could tell his daddy he caught saddam.
Though I still wouldn't be surprised if the weapons mysteriously appeared and osama around election time.
04-29-2004, 02:02 PM
#114
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Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Ok, I don't know ---- about all of this political bullshit and whatever, but I do know that the people who are elected to run this country are elected for good reasons, and there is no way that someone like you or me will have a quarter of enough information to make a good decision on matters such as this. You think you know whats going on but you really don't know ----, no matter what somebody on the "inside" has told you, or what you hear on tv, it's not even half the story. So theres no point in arguing this ---- cause you have no real clue what's going on. Out of all of the years america has been a democracy, the people in charge have yet to let us get invaded, or turn America into an anarchism, just let the people do there jobs.
04-29-2004, 02:07 PM
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Re:your being DRAFTED!...
I'm sorry... I must be a moron because I'm really not getting your point. I plan to stay in America because I feel like I should be able to voice my opinion, even if it's an unpopular one here and not resort to namecalling because I can't think of anything constructive to say...
The point I'm trying to make is that we "thought" they had something and at this point, we have nothing and a lot of people are dying because of it. The analogy that I used is that if I "thought" (hell, if I was 100% certain I had reliable source) that you were going to do something to me, it still doesn't give me the right to beat you to the punch...
And if I tried to, is it right for me to just say "Oh, well Jim bob's sister's uncle's haircutter's daughter's gynecologist told me it was true, so I took their reliable word on it..."
What if they were wrong?
I want the U.S. to be correct, fair and accountable. If that's not the idea we're trying to ------ around the world, there's no way that any of us can be pissed if another country treats us with the same "respect"...
Does the idea of innocent until proven guilty mean anything?
The point I'm trying to make is that we "thought" they had something and at this point, we have nothing and a lot of people are dying because of it. The analogy that I used is that if I "thought" (hell, if I was 100% certain I had reliable source) that you were going to do something to me, it still doesn't give me the right to beat you to the punch...
And if I tried to, is it right for me to just say "Oh, well Jim bob's sister's uncle's haircutter's daughter's gynecologist told me it was true, so I took their reliable word on it..."
What if they were wrong?
I want the U.S. to be correct, fair and accountable. If that's not the idea we're trying to ------ around the world, there's no way that any of us can be pissed if another country treats us with the same "respect"...
Does the idea of innocent until proven guilty mean anything?
04-29-2004, 02:08 PM
#116
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Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Originally Posted by Chacko
Some other things to consider is that Bush has no idea how he is going to pass power over, and its going to end up just the same as before and as it has through history. They will elect a leader, he will become a tyrant. He will try to expand his territory and we will be in war again.
This was all so that Bush could tell his daddy he caught saddam.
Though I still wouldn't be surprised if the weapons mysteriously appeared and osama around election time.
This was all so that Bush could tell his daddy he caught saddam.
Though I still wouldn't be surprised if the weapons mysteriously appeared and osama around election time.
You take him out - you clean up the mess.
You don't take him out - your a joke waiting to be attacked.
(You only get to pick one, dude.)
04-29-2004, 02:08 PM
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Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Originally Posted by 90zcrex
Ok, I don't know ---- about all of this political bullshit and whatever, but I do know that the people who are elected to run this country are elected for good reasons, and there is no way that someone like you or me will have a quarter of enough information to make a good decision on matters such as this. You think you know whats going on but you really don't know ----, no matter what somebody on the "inside" has told you, or what you hear on tv, it's not even half the story. So theres no point in arguing this ---- cause you have no real clue what's going on. Out of all of the years america has been a democracy, the people in charge have yet to let us get invaded, or turn America into an anarchism, just let the people do there jobs.
And you can't say I don't know "inside" ----, because I have military information access, thats how I know about Korea. It is also hard to discern what is a lie and what is a truth coming out of the leaders mouth but this is all turning into a rotting ---- hole.
Other problems are rising to, we shouldn't even be caring about other countries at the moment.
Underage pregnancies have tripled in the passed couple of years, drug overdoses and abuses, beaten wives, murders, and other forms of crime have increased (I say its a socialogical pattern because of the increase in population).
In 2050 our world's population is expected to hit 12.5 billion people, what are we going to do then, ethnically cleanse the world?
04-29-2004, 02:17 PM
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Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Originally Posted by Chacko
Originally Posted by 90zcrex
Underage pregnancies have tripled in the passed couple of years, drug overdoses and abuses, beaten wives, murders, and other forms of crime have increased (I say its a socialogical pattern because of the increase in population).
No, we're not in an ideal situation, but war isn't something that you can plan from start to finish. And despite you thinking that you have some idea of whats really going on, you don't. Nobody does. Our government works best when we don't give everyone in the world our knowledge of whats really going on and what we think is happening.
