your being DRAFTED!...
#101
Re:your being DRAFTED!...
people said we went to war to stop people who did ---- like what happen to us in 911. We claim war in iraq because there was threats of nukes in saddams possesion. Well we got him out of power and still havn't found any nukes as of yet. Whats the ------- point of our soldiers dying each day after we completed our mission. To teach the people there the ways of our government? They dont have a leader now and let them make their own minds on what they think is best for them. I think it bullshit how we think our ways are the best and we have to go and force our morals on other nations. The reason we came to america was for freedom of englands ways and make our own beliefs in this country. I quarentee the founding fathers veiw on how america is betraying their constitution is not in some ways how they wanted it. Im all about fighting for 911 and stopping people like saddam but there is no need for us to be there right now and i think honestly this is bushs vietnam. I know whats going on im in school learning this ----. My views are diffrent than yours not everyone going to think like you.
#102
Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Originally Posted by BlackDragon
people said we went to war to stop people who did ---- like what happen to us in 911. We claim war in iraq because there was threats of nukes in saddams possesion. Well we got him out of power and still havn't found any nukes as of yet. Whats the ------- point of our soldiers dying each day after we completed our mission. To teach the people there the ways of our government? They dont have a leader now and let them make their own minds on what they think is best for them. I think it bullshit how we think our ways are the best and we have to go and force our morals on other nations. The reason we came to america was for freedom of englands ways and make our own beliefs in this country. I quarentee the founding fathers veiw on how america is betraying their constitution is not in some ways how they wanted it. Im all about fighting for 911 and stopping people like saddam but there is no need for us to be there right now and i think honestly this is bushs vietnam. I know whats going on im in school learning this ----. My views are diffrent than yours not everyone going to think like you.
#103
Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Originally Posted by random-strike
Originally Posted by BlackDragon
people said we went to war to stop people who did ---- like what happen to us in 911. We claim war in iraq because there was threats of nukes in saddams possesion. Well we got him out of power and still havn't found any nukes as of yet. Whats the ------- point of our soldiers dying each day after we completed our mission. To teach the people there the ways of our government? They dont have a leader now and let them make their own minds on what they think is best for them. I think it bullshit how we think our ways are the best and we have to go and force our morals on other nations. The reason we came to america was for freedom of englands ways and make our own beliefs in this country. I quarentee the founding fathers veiw on how america is betraying their constitution is not in some ways how they wanted it. Im all about fighting for 911 and stopping people like saddam but there is no need for us to be there right now and i think honestly this is bushs vietnam. I know whats going on im in school learning this ----. My views are diffrent than yours not everyone going to think like you.
#104
Re:your being DRAFTED!...
You guys are nuts.... I'm thinkin' Steathmode is kind of freakin' me out. I think he needs to go down.
Does that sound fair? If there is factual evidence, yes in a civilized society, no. There's checks and balances and I would not be pissed about much in regards to the war in Iraq or on terror if Bush and Cheney could have gotten International support.
Since they didn't, the blood is on our hands and the yolk is on our face and rather than being, as Steahmode says
we're a bunch of clowns and nothing more...
Does that sound fair? If there is factual evidence, yes in a civilized society, no. There's checks and balances and I would not be pissed about much in regards to the war in Iraq or on terror if Bush and Cheney could have gotten International support.
Since they didn't, the blood is on our hands and the yolk is on our face and rather than being, as Steahmode says
Our country wasn't founded so we could be bitches, we were formed to be shot callers.
#105
Re:your being DRAFTED!...
Originally Posted by Imadouche
But to answer your question Sinner Theorhetically if there was a draft if you have a degree you would be a 2nd luietenant.
you mean a speacialist not a 2LT. you have to go through college ROTC [Reserve Officer's Training Camp] to become a 2LT/CO. Speacialist is a enlisted paygrade and college graduates become spealist if they enlist.
most likly there won't be a draft, our top generals and etc knows that the all volunteer stuff works. If we have people who don't want to fight and have to fight -- there will be alot of morale issues. Rape, Looting, all kinds of ---- happens. Plus it will degrade our Soldiers,Seaman,Airman, & Marines who worked really hard to get into the military and getting their pride and respect thrown out because the draft.
but if push comes to a shove -- join the US ARMY and ask to be with the 11thACR -- im in there boosting HMT style tanks.
#106
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No- listen to douche here its a cycle.
#107
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Originally Posted by random-strike
Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
I think this sums it up pretty well:
If things keep going like they are:
WE'RE FUCKED
If things keep going like they are:
WE'RE FUCKED
if you want to live in a socialist/communist state MOVE TO EUROPE AND BE POOR.
#108
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Originally Posted by random-strike
all you little kids talk and talk and talk and you know obsolutely nothing about what goes on... you have no clue.
You just support this ---- because you think America is the greatest god damn country in the world - well truth is WE ARE THE MOST RUTHELESS country in the world. if anything all these new acts and bullshit that Bush is administering are limiting your so called "freedoms". For ***** sakes, I can't even get curry from India without being investigated for terrorist connections. Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about because obviously your hick *** has no idea whats going on politically.
Go take a political science or a philosophy of ethics class maybe you'll open your eyes and not be blinded by the bullshit media of FOX news.
#109
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God Random you are so ------- stupid I'm sorry. I have to say it. I'm probably gonna get the big Ban for this. But you're just giving into your republican crap.
This country post WW2 was intended to bring peace around the world through non-violent means. Bush wasn't willing to negotiate with Saddam, and while I agree he was a tyrant that needed to be stomped. How many of our soldiers (how many of my friends?) have died as a result? How many innocent Iraqi's have died?
If you're so ------- proud of this ---- go enlist your self and get yourself killed. You might also like to know that your chances of committing suicide because you realize ethically that what you are doing are wrong will increase... 1:15 soldiers in Iraq commits suicide post war and these are including the ones who RETURN home.
This country post WW2 was intended to bring peace around the world through non-violent means. Bush wasn't willing to negotiate with Saddam, and while I agree he was a tyrant that needed to be stomped. How many of our soldiers (how many of my friends?) have died as a result? How many innocent Iraqi's have died?
If you're so ------- proud of this ---- go enlist your self and get yourself killed. You might also like to know that your chances of committing suicide because you realize ethically that what you are doing are wrong will increase... 1:15 soldiers in Iraq commits suicide post war and these are including the ones who RETURN home.
#110
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Originally Posted by Chacko
No- listen to douche here its a cycle.
And the fact is, We had two choices. To take saddam out of power, or to leave him in. Leaving him in power would have been easy, but anytime you take a leader out of a country it isn't "the American way" to leave the people hanging. Now we're trying to give them stability, and everyones crying. You really think we could have taken saddam out and then told the people, "well, looks like you have to build something on your own?" Yeah, we don't work that way. And if we would have done it that way, the democrats would be crying about how we left the poor people with nothing.
Wally, your a moron. If you were our President we all would have died long ago while you were waiting for international support. hahah. Don't you understand the UN is a joke? They have a reputation for not doing what they say, and if you stick with jokes like that, people don't take you seriously. Just like saddam took all the resolutions so seriously.
So in your eyes we aren't very brave for making the first move, but who'd the fucken clowns be if we were over at the UN doing paperwork still while our country is getting fucked up by whoever wants to do something?
If your not willing to be a man and stand behind your country, then get the ---- outta here. We don't need bitches nagging us anyway.