Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O) 612/445 Tranny #3 DUST-Who wins the pool?
10-14-2007, 12:05 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting...
Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
b series tranny?
10-14-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting
Originally Posted by Random Hero
And I dont care what you do spiker, if you keep driving it the way you do, in the heavy *** car you have, your going to keep grenading H tranny's.. And other ---- along the way. You have to remember, you making almost 5x's as much stock hp..
10-14-2007, 04:34 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting
Originally Posted by losesomethinbra
A heavier car under WOT will let the transmission see whatever torque the engine puts out... Another lighter car with an identical engine setup is going to put the same amount of torque on the transmission under the same WOT but it'll accelerate faster (being lighter) How is the transmission seeing more load in a heavier car?
10-14-2007, 04:39 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting
Originally Posted by losesomethinbra
A heavier car under WOT will let the transmission see whatever torque the engine puts out... Another lighter car with an identical engine setup is going to put the same amount of torque on the transmission under the same WOT but it'll accelerate faster (being lighter) How is the transmission seeing more load in a heavier car?
10-14-2007, 04:55 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting
Go for it, you'll be slow as ---- and the engine wont handle long periods of boost, it'll probably blow up eventually. But what I'm getting at is, fifth wheel or no fifth wheel, there is a certain amount of torque your engine can put out... Clutches are concerned with Torque - Not HP. Torque is what strips gears out - not HP. So tell me, when you hook up that fifth wheel, how are you putting additional torque through your transmission?
10-14-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting...
your a retard. a heavier car will put more strain on the drivetrain. end of story
10-14-2007, 05:23 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting
Originally Posted by losesomethinbra
Go for it, you'll be slow as ---- and the engine wont handle long periods of boost, it'll probably blow up eventually. But what I'm getting at is, fifth wheel or no fifth wheel, there is a certain amount of torque your engine can put out... Clutches are concerned with Torque - Not HP. Torque is what strips gears out - not HP. So tell me, when you hook up that fifth wheel, how are you putting additional torque through your transmission?
and you know that horsepower is just a measure of torque over time?
10-14-2007, 05:24 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting...
Because your trying to move more mass?!?!
Take a piece of string, tie it to a feather and using a electric motor that outputs X torque drag it across the floor
Then take that piece of string, tie it to a cinder block and try dragging it, the string breaks. Regardless of torque it outputs the torque load the string can handle(in this case 4th gear) is too weak for the amout of weight it has to move.
The torque doesn't increase, yes the motor will still output xxx wtq but the fact that it now has to move xxx pounds means whatever the weakest link is, it's probably going to break. Increase that mass and the problem will get worse.
You even said it yourself, the lighter car will accelerate faster. Think about that for a minute. Where the hell is that extra pickup going?
Take a piece of string, tie it to a feather and using a electric motor that outputs X torque drag it across the floor
Then take that piece of string, tie it to a cinder block and try dragging it, the string breaks. Regardless of torque it outputs the torque load the string can handle(in this case 4th gear) is too weak for the amout of weight it has to move.
The torque doesn't increase, yes the motor will still output xxx wtq but the fact that it now has to move xxx pounds means whatever the weakest link is, it's probably going to break. Increase that mass and the problem will get worse.
You even said it yourself, the lighter car will accelerate faster. Think about that for a minute. Where the hell is that extra pickup going?
10-14-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting
Th
You are right, a heavier car will put more strain on the drivetrain OVER TIME. In a daily driven scenario that becomes a factor and you end up with excess wear. With this situation though, I dont think spiker is concerned with longevity. I dont care about it either. What we are dealing with is WOT runs. If a car is at WOT, a light car or heavy car, the torque output going through the transmission is going to be the same. The lighter car accelerates faster and is still putting 100% of the engines output through the transmission. The heavier car also puts out the same exact 100% engine output, but goes slower. Forget weight. All that matters is the shear torque output from the motor going through the said transmission. What I'm getting at is, at this point (5x the stock power) the problems are in no way weight related. Its power related or maybe driver related (he prolly drives like he stole it, props to that)
Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
your a retard. a heavier car will put more strain on the drivetrain. end of story
10-14-2007, 06:28 PM
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Re: Uh oh! Teh Accord is running again :O)New tranny, FINALLY, Flawless shifting
Originally Posted by losesomethinbra
Th
You are right, a heavier car will put more strain on the drivetrain OVER TIME. In a daily driven scenario that becomes a factor and you end up with excess wear. With this situation though, I dont think spiker is concerned with longevity. I dont care about it either. What we are dealing with is WOT runs. If a car is at WOT, a light car or heavy car, the torque output going through the transmission is going to be the same. The lighter car accelerates faster and is still putting 100% of the engines output through the transmission. The heavier car also puts out the same exact 100% engine output, but goes slower. Forget weight. All that matters is the shear torque output from the motor going through the said transmission. What I'm getting at is, at this point (5x the stock power) the problems are in no way weight related. Its power related or maybe driver related (he prolly drives like he stole it, props to that)
You are right, a heavier car will put more strain on the drivetrain OVER TIME. In a daily driven scenario that becomes a factor and you end up with excess wear. With this situation though, I dont think spiker is concerned with longevity. I dont care about it either. What we are dealing with is WOT runs. If a car is at WOT, a light car or heavy car, the torque output going through the transmission is going to be the same. The lighter car accelerates faster and is still putting 100% of the engines output through the transmission. The heavier car also puts out the same exact 100% engine output, but goes slower. Forget weight. All that matters is the shear torque output from the motor going through the said transmission. What I'm getting at is, at this point (5x the stock power) the problems are in no way weight related. Its power related or maybe driver related (he prolly drives like he stole it, props to that)
pound accord? Weight has everything to do with it.
Somebody ban this ------- idiot
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