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Old 01-30-2008, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by t_cel_t
ak and mini 30 use 7.62x39mm not 59 thats bigger then 7.62x54r :1

and since you claim to be a hunter why the ---- are you taking shots at a runnign elk at 300yds? that is the most irresponsible thing you can do while hunting. your lucky you knocked out its legs. you have a moral obligation to only shoot to kill, not potshots to maby hit it in the *** or some ----.
I'm taking shots at running elk at 300+ yards because i shoot and kill them

my only obligation is to kill animals when i hunt. i hit it 4/4 times bitch 3 in the chest and the last one right through the front quarters, ruined both of them but broke its legs and put it down

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Old 01-30-2008, 12:41 AM
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I'm pretty sure he was disputing how you claim to have dead accurate aim at 300 yards at the age of 6. You're about as close to a god as can be. :1
what am actually disputing is elks running motion. does he hop on all 4 legs or what ?

let me clarify, at what time do the two front legs stand side by side while running ?


got it ? for how long ?



IF you did do it (which i highly doubt) that kill speaks more of your luck then your marksmanship. :1




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Old 01-30-2008, 12:45 AM
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if you didn't notice, your legs go all the way up to your hip dumbass

have you ever seen an elk run? they run just like every other 4 legged animal

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Old 01-30-2008, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by random-strike
special forces still use M14s and M1As as sniper rifles. i guess they SuCKz cause i used AK in counter-strike and it ruled!!!!
Hitting that crack pipe again?

The sniper rifles they use are based on the Remington 700 action. Bolt action.



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but if you look at the stats, the m14 is more accurate, has a longer range, more stopping power, higher fps, higher rate of fire, and arguably just as reliable
The M14 is an overweight bitch, uses only 20 round mags, has more recoil and very unmanageable in full auto, and carries less ammo for the same weight which is the main reason the US switched to the M16.


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Old 01-30-2008, 12:51 AM
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i dont think very many m14 are auto, maybe 5% of them? and the m14 is still the basic rifle of the marines isnt it?
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Originally Posted by MADMAX
Hitting that crack pipe again?

The sniper rifles they use are based on the Remington 700 action. Bolt action.

The M14 is an overweight bitch, uses only 20 round mags, has more recoil and very unmanageable in full auto, and carries less ammo for the same weight which is the main reason the US switched to the M16.
and what does this have to do with the m1a for personal use.

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i dont think very many m14 are auto, maybe 5% of them? and the m14 is still the basic rifle of the marines isnt it?
no the m16 became the standard issue rifle for all services when it first came out

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foot in mouth dumbfuck

Though the M14 has remained in service longer than any U.S. infantry rifle with the exception of the Springfield M1903 rifle, it also holds the dubious distinction of serving as the standard infantry rifle of the U.S. Army for a shorter span of time than any other weapon.


The Army M21 sniper rifle is in use in Army National Guard units [1] and special active units such as the OPFOR units of the Joint Readiness Training Center. Few M14s were in use in the Army until the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars. Since the start of these conflicts, many M14s have been employed as designated marksman and sniper rifles. These are not M21 rifles, but original production M14s. Common modifications include scopes, fiberglass stocks, and other accessories.

Some units of the U.S. Marine Corps have also used the M14. For example, in the Philippines from 1989 to 1991, the Scout Snipers of the Subic Bay naval base used the M14 NM with ART II scopes. The 5th Platoon, FAST Company (Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team), used the M14 DM (Designated Marksman) as well as M16 HBAR (heavy barrel) rifles for designated marksman purposes to ensure protection of the U.S. diplomatic mission in Somalia in 1993.[2] In the mid-1990s, the USMC chose a new rifle for DM use, an M14 modified by the Precision Weapons Shop in Marine Corps Base Quantico called the Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR). It is intended for use by security teams (SRTs, FAST Companies), and USMC Scout Snipers in the cases where a semi-automatic rifle would be more appropriate than the standard bolt-action M40A1/A3 rifle. The USMC Rifle Team uses the M14 in shooting competitions.

Various Special Operations Forces (SOF) still use M14 variants, notably the Navy SEALs, who have used the M14 as an infantry, marksman and sniper rifle. At the outbreak of the Vietnam War, SEALs used modified M14 as sniping rifles.[3] Various sniper variants have been used by the SEALs, often mistaken with M21 in the overt literature, only one of them has received a standard name in the U.S. military designations system: the XM25, developed by the Special Forces. These sniper variants have probably been replaced by the Mk 11 Mod 0, selected in 2000. SEALs also use the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle) for close-quarters battle and in a designated marksman role.

U.S. Navy ships carry several M14s in the armory. They are issued to Sailors going on watch out on deck in port. The M14 is also used to shoot a large rubber projectile to another ship when underway to start the lines over for along side refueling and replenishment.

The 1st Battalion of the 3rd United States Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard) in the Military District of Washington is the sole remaining regular United States Army combat field unit where the M14 is still issued as the standard rifle, along with a chromed bayonet and an extra wooden stock with white sling for military funerals, parades, and other ceremonies. The United States Air Force Honor Guard, the United States Navy Ceremonial Guard and Base Honor Guards also use the M14 for 3-volley salutes in military funerals. It is also the drill and parade rifle of the United States Military Academy, United States Naval Academy, United States Air Force Academy, The Citadel, Norwich University, Virginia Military Institute and North Georgia College and State University.

Although a very secretive unit, the "Delta Force" is known to have used M14 sniper variants. According to Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War, the well-known account of the Battle of Mogadishu, at least one of the "D-Boys", Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart, used an M14 for sniping from helicopters to provide support fire to ground troops. His M14 was probably fitted with an Aimpoint 3000 sight.[citation needed]

The Special Forces ("Green Berets") have made some use of the XM25 "spotter rifle". The XM25 was developed in the late 1980s within the 10th Special Forces Group, which was charged to support Special Forces sniper weapons as well as the Special Operations Target Interdiction Course (SOTIC). The XM25 was first planned as a replacement for the old M21, but after the Army adoption of the M24 SWS as its standard sniper rifle, the M25 was intended to be used by spotters of the sniper teams, while the snipers would use the bolt-action M24. Tests had shown that the M24 and M25 have the same precision when using the same M118 ammunition.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by t_cel_t
i dont think very many m14 are auto, maybe 5% of them? and the m14 is still the basic rifle of the marines isnt it?
M14's are select fire. The M1A is the civilian semi-auto version of the M14.


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Old 01-30-2008, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MADMAX
M14's are select fire. The M1A is the civilian semi-auto version of the M14.
first thing you've said in this thread that is true
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by random-strike
go to the store and handle a mini14, or a mini30 if they have one, a ak too if they got one of those. only a real store would prob have a mini30.

decide on your own, my recommendation if you have the cash is a mini14

7.62x39mm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 rounds are expensive, the mini30 and ak both use em

ak win the omg thats soo cool contest with dumbassses.

ya im definitly going to check out several guns, i usually do just for fun anyways, depending on prices and what they have im leaning on something nicer probilby. either way i know ill have fun with whatever i get. ill probilby head up to wenatchee to one shot, they seem to have the best selection with in a hour and a half of me. last time i went up they had about 10 ar's at 6-10 ak47's i actually didnt look at them that much last time, plenty of hand guns to keep any man busy, a uzi, and tons of rifles, black powder rifles, and shotguns. unless anyone else would have a better suggestion for a place to go in washington. considering i might have to go back to pick up my gun i usually keep it somewhat close, ive had to wait the full week the last two times buying a gun.

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