dumbassssssesssssssssss
01-26-2008, 12:44 PM
#101
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
How many of those kids that shot themselves were taught how to handle a gun? How many of them were playing with the gun not knowing WTF they were doing and shot themselves? How many educated gun owners have shot themselves accidentally?
I guarantee more uneducated kids shot themselves than educated kids. That leads me to believe that the guns are not the problem, it's the lack of knowledge about guns and the handling of guns that caused these children to shoot themselves. I was taught to never put my finger on the trigger until I'm ready to fire and NEVER point a gun at ANYBODY, loaded, unloaded, broken, not broken, fake, real, DON'T DO IT. Guess what? I've never accidentally shot anything or anybody. Coincidence?
I guarantee more uneducated kids shot themselves than educated kids. That leads me to believe that the guns are not the problem, it's the lack of knowledge about guns and the handling of guns that caused these children to shoot themselves. I was taught to never put my finger on the trigger until I'm ready to fire and NEVER point a gun at ANYBODY, loaded, unloaded, broken, not broken, fake, real, DON'T DO IT. Guess what? I've never accidentally shot anything or anybody. Coincidence?
I support gun ownership (i have 4 guns) and conceal carry laws,but I do think certain places you should not be able to have a gun on your person.
recent example here in Ohio.A lady in cinci was at a white castle and shot an unarmed man.He was going around asking people for change,no harm no foul.He walked towards her,she told him to go away he asked for change she shot him.She passed the course and had a legal cwc permit.The man was unarmed and there where tons of other people around that stated he made no threats or made any threating motions.She just got scared and killed him.This is in a state thats had massive protest to the conceal carry law in the first place.More fuel to the fire.
I know enough people that have permits and carry everywhere including bars where it's not legal at all in ohio.Whats going to happen is minor bar fights that would result in a few bruises and getting kicked out's going to turn into someone getting shot because the other persons getting his *** kicked and drunk.Why not just increase armed security in these places? I honestly think more people carrying more guns in more places is going to turn minor things that would just normally be fist fights into shoot outs.Maybe they should make the process to get the permit harder,im not saying do away with it at all.That being said I am going to get my cc permit but im only going to carry when I really think it's needed. (like when im going to meet someone I dont know to sell car parts or have them come here,going to certain parts of town or car meets where stupid ---- likes to happen.
01-26-2008, 01:23 PM
#102
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
100 yards + beer can + 4 inch barrel = Yu'z a muthafucken lie.
still not easy to hit but somehow it happened and there were witnesses, it's ok i wouldn't beleaive that ---- either lol.
01-26-2008, 01:26 PM
#103
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
but you're missing the point. if everyone owns a gun in their house, it does NOT mean they will also teach their kids how to use, clean and not use the gun and additionally lock it up
just because 4 members here have known how to shoot guns since they were babies and have thus taught their children how to handle guns, doesn't mean you can apply that logic or ability to the POPULUS.
another HUGE proof of point. everyone in the US must get their permit, take a 5-hour class AND pass their drivers test (some states may require more) but thats the bottom minimum. Now, are you going to tell me that all drivers in the US are good drivers? They all follow the rules of the road? And do not cause accidents?...................................... I didn't think so
-Luke
just because 4 members here have known how to shoot guns since they were babies and have thus taught their children how to handle guns, doesn't mean you can apply that logic or ability to the POPULUS.
another HUGE proof of point. everyone in the US must get their permit, take a 5-hour class AND pass their drivers test (some states may require more) but thats the bottom minimum. Now, are you going to tell me that all drivers in the US are good drivers? They all follow the rules of the road? And do not cause accidents?...................................... I didn't think so
-Luke
01-26-2008, 03:49 PM
#104
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by lkailburn
but you're missing the point. if everyone owns a gun in their house, it does NOT mean they will also teach their kids how to use, clean and not use the gun and additionally lock it up
just because 4 members here have known how to shoot guns since they were babies and have thus taught their children how to handle guns, doesn't mean you can apply that logic or ability to the POPULUS.
another HUGE proof of point. everyone in the US must get their permit, take a 5-hour class AND pass their drivers test (some states may require more) but thats the bottom minimum. Now, are you going to tell me that all drivers in the US are good drivers? They all follow the rules of the road? And do not cause accidents?...................................... I didn't think so
-Luke
just because 4 members here have known how to shoot guns since they were babies and have thus taught their children how to handle guns, doesn't mean you can apply that logic or ability to the POPULUS.
another HUGE proof of point. everyone in the US must get their permit, take a 5-hour class AND pass their drivers test (some states may require more) but thats the bottom minimum. Now, are you going to tell me that all drivers in the US are good drivers? They all follow the rules of the road? And do not cause accidents?...................................... I didn't think so
-Luke
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01-26-2008, 04:04 PM
#105
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by lkailburn
but you're missing the point. if everyone owns a gun in their house, it does NOT mean they will also teach their kids how to use, clean and not use the gun and additionally lock it up
just because 4 members here have known how to shoot guns since they were babies and have thus taught their children how to handle guns, doesn't mean you can apply that logic or ability to the POPULUS.
another HUGE proof of point. everyone in the US must get their permit, take a 5-hour class AND pass their drivers test (some states may require more) but thats the bottom minimum. Now, are you going to tell me that all drivers in the US are good drivers? They all follow the rules of the road? And do not cause accidents?...................................... I didn't think so
-Luke
just because 4 members here have known how to shoot guns since they were babies and have thus taught their children how to handle guns, doesn't mean you can apply that logic or ability to the POPULUS.
another HUGE proof of point. everyone in the US must get their permit, take a 5-hour class AND pass their drivers test (some states may require more) but thats the bottom minimum. Now, are you going to tell me that all drivers in the US are good drivers? They all follow the rules of the road? And do not cause accidents?...................................... I didn't think so
-Luke
01-26-2008, 06:28 PM
#106
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Well, you have knives, forks, spoons, toilets, pools, spas, stairs, electrical outlets, plains, trains and automobiles in the average household, all have been known to kill a child at some point in time. If there are parents out there who are too stupid to teach their kids about the dangers of things around the house, then maybe we should ban all knives, forks, spoons, toilets, pools, spas, stairs, electrical outlets, plains, trains and automobiles and ANYTHING else that has ever killed someone in a house. Kids have been known to drown in 3" of water in a bathtub because the parent left the kid unattended for a minute. Does that mean they should take away my bathtub because I might not be a smart enough parent to keep my kid from drowing in it? Do you know how many kids drown in pools each year? What are we going to do about that? Is someone going to come fill up my pool with sand because kids die in pools?
so if your kid doesn't die because you taught them about guns, and my kid doesn't die because i teach them right and wrong and do not keep a gun in the house. then we are set. its the other 303,312,921 people in the U.S. that will have to deal with their own scenarios. but the problem where it bleeds over to BE a concern of yours or mine is if your little kid goes down the street to play at billy's house, and billy's parents leave their guns unlocked.
-Luke
01-26-2008, 07:58 PM
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by lkailburn
my point isn't that the object is at fault. it is the user. bad drivers arn't bad because of the car it is because they are bad drivers. so the parents are at fault in those cases. if they do not secure the knifes, fence the pool, and lock up their guns then it is the parents fault. I'm just trying to say that you can't trust people to do things PROPERLY. again, i refer back to drivers. every single day i come across dumbass drivers.. rednecks, rightwings, and leftwings etc. i'm just saying people know right and wrong and yet they still are dumb about what should be common sense because...simply there are MANY dumb people in this world
so if your kid doesn't die because you taught them about guns, and my kid doesn't die because i teach them right and wrong and do not keep a gun in the house. then we are set. its the other 303,312,921 people in the U.S. that will have to deal with their own scenarios. but the problem where it bleeds over to BE a concern of yours or mine is if your little kid goes down the street to play at billy's house, and billy's parents leave their guns unlocked.
-Luke
so if your kid doesn't die because you taught them about guns, and my kid doesn't die because i teach them right and wrong and do not keep a gun in the house. then we are set. its the other 303,312,921 people in the U.S. that will have to deal with their own scenarios. but the problem where it bleeds over to BE a concern of yours or mine is if your little kid goes down the street to play at billy's house, and billy's parents leave their guns unlocked.
-Luke
take care of your own and stfu about what other people do. its none of your buisness
01-26-2008, 08:37 PM
#108
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by random-strike
why do you care about other people's kids?
take care of your own and stfu about what other people do. its none of your buisness
take care of your own and stfu about what other people do. its none of your buisness
so you admit there are dumbass people in the world and them having possession of a weapon that they are likely to leave unlocked with their uneducated child is likely to cause a dramatic increase in the amount of accidental shootings (children or adults)
it becomes my problem if everyone in my neighborhood has uneducated children (or ---- even careless adults) with unlocked, and loaded guns ready to add +1 to the number of accidental shootings (shooting me, my friends, family, anyone i know etc)
it's called the decency of mankind to care for others. altruistic, benevolent, magnanimous. these things are innate to me. its a pitty you don't share the same traits.
-Luke
01-26-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by lkailburn
so you admit there are dumbass people in the world and them having possession of a weapon that they are likely to leave unlocked with their uneducated child is likely to cause a dramatic increase in the amount of accidental shootings (children or adults)
Originally Posted by lkailburn
it becomes my problem if everyone in my neighborhood has uneducated children (or ---- even careless adults) with unlocked, and loaded guns ready to add +1 to the number of accidental shootings (shooting me, my friends, family, anyone i know etc)
Originally Posted by lkailburn
it's called the decency of mankind to care for others. altruistic, benevolent, magnanimous. these things are innate to me. its a pitty you don't share the same traits.
-Luke
-Luke
ooo you're sooo great, pat yourself on the back ******. you're soooooo decent, oooo thank you very much mr luke you're gunna save me from myself! thanks for your help you're so smart and know whats best for me!! thank you sooooooooo much!!!!
socialist queer.
care for others = control over others
move to europe ******
01-26-2008, 09:01 PM
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
to steal a line from rp
judging from your pictures you look a little over weight, are you going to give fatty food to my kids? are you going to accidently leave a bon bon on your porch and my kid will eat it
i think someone should come check and see if you're eating right, because it becomes my problem when you're going to +1 the obesity rate in the US, driving up healthcare costs when your arteries become so clogged you fall over and pass out smashing your kid.
it's called the decency of mankind to care for others. altruistic, benevolent, magnanimous. these things are innate to me. its a pitty you don't share the same traits.
-RANDOM-STRIKE
judging from your pictures you look a little over weight, are you going to give fatty food to my kids? are you going to accidently leave a bon bon on your porch and my kid will eat it
i think someone should come check and see if you're eating right, because it becomes my problem when you're going to +1 the obesity rate in the US, driving up healthcare costs when your arteries become so clogged you fall over and pass out smashing your kid.it's called the decency of mankind to care for others. altruistic, benevolent, magnanimous. these things are innate to me. its a pitty you don't share the same traits.
-RANDOM-STRIKE
