Originally Posted by Donald125

what about a Z8. 4.9L v8 with 400hp and 363 tork, 6 speed and a top speed of 186 mph

yes johnny, GM does make some good car with good value, but only number wise.

Among all the the US production GM cars i`ve driven they all feel like ----, disconnected, cheap to the touch interior, stupid LCD reading display thingy well of course i`ve never drive a cor-vet, yet.

I honestly would take a ------- Hyundai over a GM . You gotta look at how much nicer everything is. When you buy a car u don`t just buy the numbers on paper which you can not re-generate, but you buy that piece of work and craftmenship.

Originally Posted by Sinner

I agree the s2k is an great car. I'm border line in the S2000 and the boxster, both are good cars. I doubt I can screw up no matter which one I get.

Originally Posted by random-strike

of course you would

and who cares? there is nothing different about how honda makes cars compared to GM. NOTHING. the only reason hondas are "more reliable" is because THEY MAKE NO POWER. NOTHING BREAKS IF YOU MAKE NO POWER.

its easy to understand.

Originally Posted by CoreyR

yeah hondas build quality isnt way better then GM or anything

get real gm have a much lower standard of quality control then honda does. everything about a honda is more quality then a GM from the materials used on the interior to the drivetrain parts to....everything.

Originally Posted by random-strike

sure they do... got any proof of that?
you're acting like hondas have such great interior, i bet you couldn't tell the difference between a cobalt interior and civic interior if they didn't have badges on them.

Originally Posted by hondaunlimited

i would have to agree with johnny. stick a 454 big block in a 69 camaro RS/SS......you'll be seeing more slug trails than the blueberry festial in ketchikan alaska.

s2k's look.....meh....but they are ------- slow. c'mon, stick an ls in an EF and you could smoke a stock s2k. lesse now, an decent ef would cost what...a grand. and a complete ls swap...uhhh, imma think high side another grand. so kids, whats 1000+1000? 2000. lets make it easy to compare shall we?

EF+ls swap=$2000
stock s2k=15-17 grand

do the ------- math retards

i just got new sig material, holy ----

Originally Posted by ratcityrex

Not trying to stick up for hondas or anything but my cuz has a 2 door slowbalt, and after 20k on the clock the inerior was falling apart. It would creek, rattle and sound like it was going to fall apart if you drove it over some train tracks. I dont think that a colbalt is known for its awsome interior, but neather is a civic. But I tell you what, the few newer civics I've ridden in that had about the same amount of miles, felt alot better inside.