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Old 10-05-2007, 02:43 PM
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i never noticed which way the water spins, but i have a strong feeling that it has a lot to do with existing turbulence in the water at the time when it begins spinning. in a perfectly still volume with only random diffusion however ...


Get it now Coriolis effect as nothing to do with TURBULENCE in the water... Simple High school Physics..... I could regurgitate the wikipedia definition, but figured that pictures are better for special cases...



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Old 10-05-2007, 07:58 PM
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JD, stop getting your **** in a tangle!

once again, X psi 100% ve (which is possible at 1bar, and you should know that) and it does not matter what X is, the engine will injest the air at that rate regardless. i chose 3k because with a **** small turbo that might need water injection, you would have full boost by then.

once i had my .128 i implied that i believe that its enough time for some water to evaporate given the right circumstances, ie, ------- hot. i still believe this, and at some stage (when I choose to) will delve into further detail to determine exactly how much.

as for post whoring... lol, thats hilarious! the thread hadnt been touched in a week and YOU bumped it asking for a response. i'd say you are the -----. i on the other hand just post to counter crap like "NO water evaporates" from ordinary folk like you that loiter in places like this to make themselves feel better about their worthless lives.

your arrogance is unsurpassed! do you sleep well? lol

big daddy, just for you mate (lowsy footage i know, but...) :

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL1X3OVRSOw

local inertia beats the difference of two global but slightly different inertias any day ;-)

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Old 10-07-2007, 11:26 AM
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once again, X psi 100% ve (which is possible at 1bar, and you should know that)
One bar? Hello, you calculated at atmospheric pressure, a point in which 100% VE is ------- impossible. At one bar boost I sure as hell hope there is greater than 100% VE.


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once i had my .128 i implied that i believe that its enough time for some water to evaporate given the right circumstances, ie, ------- hot. i still believe this, and at some stage (when I choose to) will delve into further detail to determine exactly how much.
So you again refuse to prove anything you have said? How utterly convenient.
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:51 AM
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no no no, 1 bar absolute, as in 1 atmosphere, as in 100kpa. greater than 100% ve can be achieved NA and boosted.

besides, VE is determined by volume of gas injested at given pressure, not volume of gas injested relative to 100kpa reference...

ie, if your manifold is at 200kpa and when the cylinder starts compressing the mixture with the valves closed you have what would be on the average greater than 200kpa if expanded to the full cylinder volume, then you have greater than 100% ve.

if you swallow 200kpa worth of air at 200kpa of manifold pressure, thats 100%ve.

100kpa swallow 105kpa, thats 105% ve...

get your basics right...
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:22 PM
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water/meth injection is the ----!

My mate bought the snow boost kit and added it to his 1400cc turbo,and had the car remaped!

230kw 415nm there was a increase in 30kw and 75nm just over .2 extra bar boost. That thing is ------- Crazy.

its already done a 13.3, now we will def break into the 12's
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:32 PM
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Hello, you calculated at atmospheric pressure
NO, no i didnt. you have lost the plot.

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a point in which 100% VE is ------- impossible.
ok, for someone that claims to know a lot about hondas, you have really lost the plot.

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At one bar boost I sure as hell hope there is greater than 100% VE.
not necessarily, an engine could still suck badly at injesting air, take many many pushrod designs, and sohc even dohc 8 and 12v head designs as examples of that....

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So you again refuse to prove anything you have said? How utterly convenient.
furthermore, i havent refused to prove anything, i'm just saying that there is no rush, and i'll get around to proving it for my own interest, and not for you at my leisure.

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Old 10-08-2007, 06:52 AM
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look fred, JD will continue to throw his e-weight around in this thread, and you may just get crushed, i've been a noob here long enough to STFU and listen to JD. case in point : water injection, JD has many writeups on the web about it, just listen and learn. please don't mislead the nogs any longer.
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look fred, JD will continue to throw his e-weight around in this thread, and you may just get crushed, i've been a noob here long enough to STFU and listen to JD. case in point : water injection, JD has many writeups on the web about it, just listen and learn. please don't mislead the nogs any longer.
the trouble is, there is nothing worth listening to learn from.

"i read this paper by xyz and it tested the average weight of an apple, thus water doesnt cool air no matter what"

doesnt cut it.

link me the numerous write ups and i'll read the chemistry and physics and evaluate his performance. if it turns out that hes right about all of this, and the water temperature is identical afterwards, not 20, 15, 10, 5, or even 2 or 1 degrees C different, i'll publicly kiss a photo of an **** with "JD" written on it and post it here.

but there lies the problem, he wont post anything other than "he said, so thats how it is" and thus needs to do more than throw his "e-tongue" around to impress or amaze me.

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Old 10-08-2007, 01:31 PM
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blah blah blah

backpedal backpedal backpedal

change story

<insert bogus claims here>

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further proof that you are an idiot that cant read. the story hasnt changed one bit. the non bogus claims are the same as they always were. get a life loser.
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