TurboEDIT Support (OBD0) - Current Verison: 2.6.x
 

http://www.-------------/downloads/TurboEdit-2.6.zip

Click that link to download the latest, best copy of what I know is out there at this point.

Includes and old version of TurboEdit installer. Use the installer to load the application to your computer.

Delete the TurboEdit.EXE file from its Program Files folder and replace it with the TurboEdit 2603.EXE file in that same folder, rename it TurboEdit.EXE so all links will work.

Take the two OCX files and copy/paste them into your Windows/System32 folder

Open the new version of TurboEdit (2.6.1) and open a fresh copy of NG60 (1.8 bar stock map version or 2.5 bar Motorola Map version included) and have at it. Datalogger and Real Time Tuning using the Ostrich have had good results!

- XENOCRON

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

very nice! :)

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

excellent work! jason has been progressing at an amazing rate and taking queues from everything we, the users, want in an editor. keep your eye on this one, its gonna be sweet.

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

wow... looks great. good job!

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

My car is currently tuned through Turboedit using GHD Boost rom.. The Difference is incredible, GHD was much to complicated for someone like me.. with Turboedit ive done changes quickly and safely untill its been running very well.. I shall have Dyno Results in the upcomming weeks of the car.

Big thumbs up to Jason for letting me test the software since its 0.0.1 stages.. and providing me a very decent map for my engine and turbo setup.

Loving it.. Cant wait to get my Serial port setup to work with True tuning and datalogging module.

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

props.

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

Nice work man I'm getting happier by the day.
I just ordered my batronix eprom burner...Can't wait until i get it woohooo....seems like there is a battle between turboedit and ghettodyne now...turboedit the underdog hhehehe.
Nice work man i luv it..I'll try both out. ;D

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

One question..what's with the Dataloggin thing?
Is it like ECUcontrol that you can drive with it and your laptop contected trhu a com port etc etc?

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

hmmm Ghettodyne no datalogging...Turboedit Datalogging...hmmmm interesting 8)

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

There is no "competition" between GhD and TurboEdit. This type of pitting makes me very sad indeed.

Mike

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

Sorry...I got a bit to excited ;D

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

guys lets not go where i think this is going? umkay?

this is on turboedit. not GHD. there is no competition all these guys work toghther..

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

true true.,....My bad

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

just to reiterate, theres no competition here. that just ruins the goal of pgmfi all together. neither is even seeking profit and dont mind if a few unscrupulous tuners try to, this is done purely out of their own enjoyment and effort to help people like us. hell, you might even say TE first started to help me with my pr4 :)

afaik jason and mike actually share their thoughts and discuss new ideas. dont forget TE is compatible with GhD bins and both are more than willing to share eachother's new routines and designs.

ya so, just wanted to give more props to two great programs by two ingenius coders ;D say i wonder where blake is heh

Re:TurboEDIT Advanced ROM Editor by Jason Parker
 

Whoa whoa whoa.. indeed I am going to have to agree with this. There is no competition. As a matter of fact, I have gone to Mike on a few things to get help with. This is a learning project for me. Ghettodyne and TurboEDIT accomplish the same thing, in different ways, that's all.

As for the Datalogging. Yes, it's "like" EcuControl in the fact that you get realtime data from the ECU as you drive. It is, however, "not like" EcuControl in any way shape or form. Nick has done a spectacular job at getting the information out there and making a quality app to monitor LOADS of sensors during a run.

The datalogging function of TurboEDIT is strictly used for tuning the ROM that is currently loaded. It accesses the cells the of the ROM and plots specific user defined data in the Datalogging grid based on those cells and realtime information from the ECU. This will allow users to get a more accurate tune derived from the characteristics of thier own vehicle.

To stress again, Ghettodyne is spectacular software offered at an even more spectacular price. Being the pioneer of OBD0 ROM editing, Ghettodyne has been the basis of numerous apps, it and ut's author should both be repsected.

Please don't put us in this position, as it was not what was ever intended. :-\

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by Jason Parker (TurboEF9)
 

Sweet! I'm very close to getting my set up going and can't wait to try out both the programs! So TE and GD are compatible?

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by Jason Parker (TurboEF9)
 

Yes.

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by Jason Parker (TurboEF9)
 

This ---- is the ----.. gawd parker I wanna have your baby

-CF

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by Jason Parker (TurboEF9)
 

Ok, I just downloaded turboedit and right as I try to open it, it gives me this error message:
Runtime error '339':
Component 'MSCOMCTL.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid.

Now I don't know if this was one of those fixes from ghettodyne, but I can't find out b/c the site is down (or gone) :'(

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by Jason Parker (TurboEF9)
 

OK, for the last time. TurboEDIT has nothing to do with Ghettodyne. Two completely seperate programs, two completely different authors.

As far as the error, you just don't have a file that TurboEDIT needs.

This is not a problem. I repackaged TurboEDIT to include that file (it increased installer size by 500K but it's there. :/).

So, uninstall, redownload, and reinstall. Should work great.

I have the development environment installed so I have all of the files. It's just going to take a few installs by different people to know what needs to be included. Don't fret. I check the board and my email several times throughout the day, and problems will get fixed immediately.
;D

Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

Awesome! It works :)

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

Looks good...I am almost ready to start helping you beta test...very very soon. Although I am having some trouble locating a low profile ZIF to solder in to my PR4. The xtronics and chips are on the way tho.

A question I dont know if you have planned in the works. Anything in the works for tuning with correction Maps? Specifically decel enlenment?

I cant wait to help and be a part of all of this soon!

- Chris

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

If you mean using the datalog to correct fuel enrichment. Yes. It's planned, and already in the works and being tested.

We're (www.PGMFI.com) has to develop a ROM with 16-bit serial communication routine, or something. But that's outside the scope of this board. But the ROM is in the works.

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

hey what would it take to start running this from scratch. i am very unfamiliar with these setups and i need the info. does it work on obd2 97 civic ex. soory i don't know ---- but thanx for any help

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

TurboEDIT works soley with OBD0 (excluding PR3/PW0) ECUs.

Sorry.

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

Im still not completely sure i "understand" the fuel multipliers.

I took Ben Strader's (tunes Mike Lasky's and many others cars) basic tuning seminar. He covered most of the major $$$$ players inclusing Motec, Autronic, Accel DFI Gen 7, FAST...blah blah blah.

The one thing that is very common among those are the additional "correction maps" that work behind the main fuel tables and ignition timing maps. The correction maps control such things as the decel curve (when letting off the gas and cruising, then the quick snap back on the throttle). I know this is a rom problem but that ideally would be corrected in the editor.

I dont know how familiar you are with the software of some of the major players out there...and I understand everything shall come in time.

Maybe I should just be talking to blundar to see if I can help in any way?

Thanks again...

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

I guess I should consider an EF/OBD0 for my next project car.

Mad props on this program!!!!!!!

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

Not that you'll have to worry about if you're using TurboEDIT because TurboEDIT can AutoDetect Fuel Multipliers based on the values the users enters into the map!!

Fuel multipliers are easy to understand, however.

All they let you do is calculate a value through loss of resolution.


For example, the multiplier will be 0 - 4, and the data bit will be 0x01 - 0xFF (1 to 255). Range on multiplier 0 goes 1.08 to 2.3 when calculated in the fuel pulse width equation. The incrementation when using multiplier 0? 0x01 = 1.08, 0x02 = 1.08, 0x03 = 1.09 0x04 = 1.09.

Lose a bit of resolution, to go to multiplier 1, and you now get a range of 1.08 to 3.52 But the incrementation with multiplier 1 is now 0x01 = 1.08, 0x02 = 1.09, 0x03 = 1.10, 0x04 = 1.11 and so on until you get to multipler 4.

Incrementation of multiplier 4? 0x01 = 1.08, 0x02 = 1.15, 0x03 = 1.23, 0x04 = 1.31!

See how each multipler has it's own range, and with a bit of overlap, multipliers can be mixed and matched with no problem at all? YES!

I hope this clears up the mystery of multipliers. Bottom line? All they do is let you have a wider range of values. :D

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

*hand flying over head making airplane noise* ;)

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

that was a great explanation...i understand much better now.

But im glad Turbo Edit has the Auto Fuel Multiplier feature.

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

Ok... So... If somebody is going to boost a D16A6, we would use the .bin boost file you can download with TurboEDIT, and would we have to change anything? I don't understand the tables at all, should they be changed? Also the timing, it says its set to one degree lower for boost. Maybe I should read up somewhere? hehe... I'm just overwealmed with the maps. You said its automatic done, but we have to enter in values, if anybody can help me understand this I'd appreciate it.

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

xenocron did you take notes? hondata seminar had loads of chinese food, drinks, and pens and paper clipboards :P

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

OK, I can help you out.. I'm currently working on a TurboEDIT Help file which will contain everything needed to know about using the software and tips on tuning.

It's not done, but if you want to take a look at it so far, you're more than welcome..
http://www.driftkids.com/editor/TurboEDIT.hlp

Anyway.. You can run the stock PGMFI Boost ROM if you'd like. Tuning maps is based on creating a target air fuel ratio through the car's "map trace". Small often forgotten fact is that your car doesn't use all of the cells on your maps. It'll only use a certin range based on your region's pressure as a base and the pressure generated by your vehicle. TurboEDIT's datalogging ability will show you your exact map trace. This will be key to tuning the correct part of your maps. (Feature will be available in the upcoming 1.20 release..)

Values in the maps are degrees BTDC in the Ignition, and Injector pusle duration in millisecons on the Fuel Map. You increase or decrease fuel based on your target ratio. You increase or decrease spark based on your cars ability to withstand detenation. IT's a fine balance.

As always, I am not responsible for damages created by using TurboEDIT. Please, if you don't know how ot use it, learn before you start messing with your tables.

Anyway.. Quick rundown.

Re:www.TurboEDIT.org by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

Hrm...

I don't know if I ever told anyone, but the TurboEDIT website ish http://www.TurboEDIT.org

Happy Downloading! :P

Re:www.TurboEDIT.org by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

;D

Re:www.TurboEDIT.org by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

So does this only work on obd0?

Re:TurboEDIT ROM Editor by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

Took lots of notes! But we only got free pizza :(

On another note...I burned the NA pr4 map in pm6 code. I think I may have a de-funked PM6 ECU as the check engine light is on...doesnt even blink. Hmm, what does that exactly mean? Car starts, idles high & erractically...let it sit there for a while and shut her off. Didnt have nay more time to play.

So, unless its a bad ECU...if I have no check engine lights when the stock ECU is in...and the check light is on when i put the PM6 in there, what else could it be? Any specific things i could check?

Re:www.TurboEDIT.org by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

Could have burned the ROM incorrectly to the chip fouling the checksum.

You import the maps, or burned the maps? ..explain your process.

Come to #Honda-Perf on EFNet, and I'll walk you through it.

Re:www.TurboEDIT.org by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

so what are some of the other features in the works?

anyone else using TE successfully yet?

I wish I had a good ECU...anyone got any spare ZIF's???

Re:www.TurboEDIT.org by TurboEF9 (Current version: 1.18)
 

So far there are 7 people that I have personally tuned that are running like champs.

As far as new features?

Boost retard scaling for ignition maps - Enter the value of retard (.5, 1, 1.5, 2 etc) degrees per PSI, and TE will scale your ignition map.

Increased datalogging support: The Map Trace is done, now plotting of data, log files, and Map trace playback are planned.

What other features would you all like to see in TE?