Pootie

well now that we are nearing the current state fo the car, i would like to say it's true.

when u think everything is going too smooth, something goes all sorts of wrong!!

that being said , the next few posts are uber depressing!

Pootie

i am sick to my stomach right now ,, i want to trow up so badd!!

very dissapointing day..

ok so i had a good nights sleep.. woke up early,, went to the shop..HAPPY!!!

figured today was just small things, and START up!!

oh man was i wrong!!!

well here is the situation.. the block was originally a 1.8L (81mm)Acura Integra GSR block... it was Darton sleeved and bored to 84.5mm.

the block was also decked unevenly by the machineshop!!! <~~ this is where it gets depressing.
[B] so now the block is slightly shorter from the shave job...

that being said... this is how i was sitting pretty b4 start up!!



NOW HERE IS THE BAD NEWS.. sorry but i was soo sad and could not bring myself to take pix

* i put the basemap in the ECU..
* checked everything, and checked it again!!
* crank, STARTTT
*let it run for a bit.. and was checking out the fuel stuff (checking for leaks because im scared to death of flames, lol)
* NOTICED SOME ANTIFREEZ BY THE BLOCK. WHERE THE HEAD MEETS THE BLOCK BY THE TIMEING BELT. TURN CAR OFF..
*pulled plug #1 and looked down and then green liquid ontop of the piston.

NO BUENO!! went to the store and got a 6-pac of Corona and ordered a Pizza!! drank a bit, ate a bit ( maybe it was a bad dream, maybe i was just light headed from not eating and seeing things, maybe a lot of things)

[B]still the same REALITY "THE MOTOR WAS PUSHING WATER"...called the machine shop and told them about the issue. They said it was because i ran the car hot with no coolant and it warped the head. WTF this was the first start up. They then said to take the head off and bring them the block. ( i took them the wholee motor, so they can open it, So they can't say i messed anything up while taking it off)


at this point i was planning my FOR SALE thread in my head!!

i just QUIT for the day, went home and drank a lil more, the wife gave me a few comforting words.. and here i am !![B]


Sat is my next day off, and the motor comes out, and back to the Machine shop..to see whats the REAL issue and whats the damage!!

right now my options are to try to trouble shoot the block issue.. and salvage it.

or i have another block i can sent it out to be sleeved ( at a different machine shop) and put all the internals from the first block in that one.. because it's 100% a sealing issue!!

Smith-02

next time you take your block to a hole in the wall machine shop, make sure theyre a good shop and what honda is

Pootie

well at this point the Machine shop is telling me to bring in just teh block, so i pull the head off. Don't mind the spilt Antifreez, it was all cleaned up.


take them the block to check out,, they are telling me that everything is good on the block. ( i know the head is good , because it just came off a running motor). Anyway i take the block to a 2nd machineshop to get a 2nd opinion and they confirm that it is decked unevenly. I take this find back to the first Machineshop and they have a lot to say , but very little having to do with resolving this issue.

a slight compensation was worked out, and i took the loss, and started over.

It was nearing the end of the season anyway, and i just wanted to make it to the few remaining events. And i didn't have the time nor the funds to have another motor sleeved.

so i had another 81mm stock Sleeve motor built with pistons and rods. This time LsVtec ( becuase finding a GSR is like finding a virgin in Brazil)

Pootie

the plan is to at least have the car running ( if that means stock sleeves for now)

another block will be sent out to Z10 in the spring to be sleeved for the 09 season.

Pootie

and here we are at the Present!!

the car was put back together last weekend with a fresh stock sleeve LsVtec with 81mm 9:1 JE pistons and Eagle big bolt rods.




well i got the intercooler pipeing in!!

mocked it up, (still missing quite a few Tbolt clamps and a few couplers..) but it looks like it's going to fit like a glovee!!

3" on the cold side, and 2.5" on the side . ALLLL Alum!

Tial 50mm BOV !!



also test fitted the 3" to 4" downpipe.. tight fit, but with a bit of cut welding it will fit perfect!!


got the front bumper back up. Sorry for the unpainted CTR grille!! that will be taken care of when the car is painted!!



PS: thats not the front bumper/lip thats going on the finished product when it gets painted ;-)

QwikCRX

oh man so sorry to hear about that issue, back to the stock sleeves, I know chris tunes conservative, but so does jeff, here is my dyno chart from my car, its tuned very conservatively on 93 octane and only on 20 psi for the solid line, the dotted line is off wastegate spring, i daily drive it and some times drive it 3 hours one way to go race. most set ups like mine jeff often tunes to 520 or 530 safely but he stopped at just over 500 on this one to be extra safe. I once asked jeff what he felt was the limit on stock sleeves and he said low 500 on pump and 600 on race gas was as far as he liked to see them pushed, however he has seen guys go past that and not have issues.
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BigBird

setup /\?

1991civicsi

Nice.

Pootie

werd X2! LOL

i was happy with the 436whp i got from Chris at the Time tho. i was on one boost setting and was spinning 24.5s.

so any more power was going to hurt me . when i go back to re-tune this set-up i will be getting a eCtune boost solonoid and boost by gear should help with traction and i can put a lil more power in the car.. 450 whp would make me Happy ( because i'm going to drive it like a 500whp car, lol).

The car is no longer a Daily Driver so i'll be taking a jug of C16 with me on this tune.