joebowlr21

it's so jdm the room is spinning

2G6

JDM Moparz stage eleventeen trimz x a billion fwhp?

blade8r

omg everyone here is stupid.

the stock Srt-4 turbo is not a 16g. it's a TD04LR-15GK-6cm

it's a reverse rotation td04 turbo. hence the TD04LR-15GK-6cm bold and highlighted letter what it means. you can happen to find this same turbo in the 1991-1999 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 and 1991-1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo. if you take only one turbo out of the two.

your 14b is a td05 style turbo.

difference between td04 and td05 is the center section. so this doesnt tell the difference in the compressor housing numb nuts, not the twin scroll bullshit, not the reverse rotation crap. it's the center section.

so you cannot use the 15g wheel or it's center section or housing to mate onto your tdo5 compressor housing if you had that idea.

truth is the 14b is a bigger turbo. by about 2 cfm @ a pressure ratio of 2.0. so it's obviously not a way bigger. just a hair bigger.

if you don't know what a pressure ratio is go read the sticky on top of the page you noob.

also you cannot use the srt4 exhaust housing since it's a one peice along with it's exhaust manifold.

but if you like. you may like to downgrade and find a used compressor housing out of one of those twin turbo models i listed earlier and mate it to the srt-4 compressor housing center section unit and have yourself a turbocharger that is...well, let's just say if you did something like that you'd be a fucken retard.

blade8r

btw stage 1 is basicly an ECU (or PCM as the srtforum goes like to call it) that is tuned by the SRT group.

once upon a time parent company Daymler Chrysler decided one day to sell an Ecu that makes the srt-4 perform a tad bit better by increasing the its stock hp tremondously with 10hp and with the added bonus of the ability to void your warranty for a mere 300 dollars. doesn't it sound wonderfull?

not only that if the ****** wants to sell you an ecu that by the standards of the srt community belive you can make more hp with the stock ecu over stage 1. then by all means buy an ecu you don't have a car with.

you can make it work. somehow....

2G6

What? TD04 and TD05 are the size of the exhaust wheels. Are you saying that the td04 or td05 has anything to do with the compressor side? Maybe I'm not understanding, but it sure seems like what you're saying. I am positive that the td0 whatever it is has to do with the sizing of the exhaust wheel, not any part of the compressor wheel or housing.

In my very first post I said that the SRT4 turbo is a td04. I just wasn't clear on if the "stage 1" like he was saying was an upgraded turbo over stock. Then I proceeded to say that the 14b was bigger and easier to run. I just said it in about 600 less words than you did and in a much easier format and then poked fun at all the "stage 1" and ridiculousness SRT guys use.

blade8r

let me be more specific

Td04/td05 is purely by definition the size of the center cartridge, turbine, and shaft diameter.

the compressor housing has to be able to mate to centersection as the compressor housing has to mate the the center section aswell. each one is independant of each other. one cannot mix match either one out of the different species.

so take for example

16G-Td05-7CM2 which is the Super 16G

16g is compressor wheel,
td05 is the center section
7cm2 is the compressor housing.

but lets say i want to use the wheel and compressor housing without the turbine housing. only since it's a really good map on that turbo on a car like my Starion (Im making an example up i don't own a starion)

14G-TD05H-8CM2 starion stock turbo.

so we know the 16g is bigger. we know it'll fit in the center section in the compressor housing since it's a td05 compatable compressor housing. but i see that the compressor housing is bigger on the starion then it is on the super 16g. so i'll use my starion comp housing.

so utalizing an 8CM2 housing out of the starion will make an EVEN BIGGER turbo in the starion.

and the new name shall be dubbed:

16G-Td05-8CM2

these are the specifics that mitsubihi turbo's have. if you happen to find a mitsubishi turbo with the same TD0X they should fit each other.

NOTE: there is a variant that one has to abide by. and that is if the turbo is a direction rotation. it has to be the same in the housing either Reverse rotation or non reverse rotation. this cannot be mixed match i belive.

it is possible to upgrade the wheel and housing into the differnt turbo's. i just was trying to say if he wanted to use a srt-4 turbo. he'd have to use a td04 comp from pretty much from any buick.

mitsubishi is fucken retarded when it comes the turbine housing. since 90% of their turbo don't say it's name in true whole form.

Very unlike the t3 a/r ratio.

blade8r

btw in all the forum members i will be probably most inform about the srt4 being a former owner and former advant srt4 forum junkie.

BirdmanMD

no one gives a ----. you owned a skittle and seem like a know-it-all jackass. congratulations ********

Slo_crx1

TDo5 not only refers to the center section but to the size of the exhaust wheel as well. I have had both tdo4 and tdo5 turbos, and tdo5's definately have a slightly larger exhaust wheel. Like mentioned, the cm^2 does refer to the size of the exhaust housing itself, and only exhaust housings with the same "tdo.." reference number can be interchanged. Therefore, any turbo with the tdo5 or tdo5h center/exhaust wheel combo can be matched to any 6cm^2, 7cm^2, or 8cm^2 exhaust housing of the same tdo5. The only oddballs are the one's with the "r" abbreviation, which also like mentioned refer to a reverse rotation, such as the tdo5hr/16g/7cm^2 found on late model evo's.

HondaTuner

If you think "everyone" is stupid. I didn't know until I wound up looking into it that Stage 1 is injectors and ECU... Figured the kid was a Gran Turismo junkie and was like "omg its stage 1" or somecrap.