building block, need suggestions
aigh, i'm gonna be building a b18b block this winter, this is the first time i've messed around with internals, but, i'm not really sweating it thanks to the honda service manual that i downloade
i plan on doing everything right so that it will last a while. i have a bare block right now, i'm getting eagle h beams this week, and i'll prolly be ordering some je's next week, these are the definietes. now i'm wondering about bearings, seals, etc. i was looking at toga main and rod bearings and it was about 160 for the set, are these good, or would i be just as safe with factory honda bearings? also i plan on getting a new honda oem water pump, and a toga gsr oil pump. also getting a complet hona oem bottom end gasket seal kit. i'll be getting pins for the block and am getting it hot tanked and honed. does this sound like a good set up to everyone? is there anything else that you can think of that will benefit me (besides getting it sleeved
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i plan on doing everything right so that it will last a while. i have a bare block right now, i'm getting eagle h beams this week, and i'll prolly be ordering some je's next week, these are the definietes. now i'm wondering about bearings, seals, etc. i was looking at toga main and rod bearings and it was about 160 for the set, are these good, or would i be just as safe with factory honda bearings? also i plan on getting a new honda oem water pump, and a toga gsr oil pump. also getting a complet hona oem bottom end gasket seal kit. i'll be getting pins for the block and am getting it hot tanked and honed. does this sound like a good set up to everyone? is there anything else that you can think of that will benefit me (besides getting it sleeved
)
well, it's for boost of course, but i will prolly run it na for a while seeing as how my "car budget" will be spent up for a while after buying everything for the block. i'll be putting a b16 head on it
are you staying with b18b rod length and crap like that or making it a shorter stroke for higher rpm?
b18b crank? or gsr crank?
I've heard that Honda OEM Bearings are the best.
PS. Kevin. Im thinkin about doin the same thing this winter w/a b18b block, b16a obd0 head, IM, and dizzy... can u keep a price list goin? thanks.
b18b crank? or gsr crank?
I've heard that Honda OEM Bearings are the best.
PS. Kevin. Im thinkin about doin the same thing this winter w/a b18b block, b16a obd0 head, IM, and dizzy... can u keep a price list goin? thanks.
I'm a firm beleiver on using factory bearings. I've just seen to many problems with aftermarket ones, people not measuring oil clearences properly, to tight/to loose etc. I'd inspect the old ones real well, more than likly they are just fine and ready to go for another 60k miles. I reused my Main bearings on my built Ls/Vtec.
As far as seals, all your really going to need is a Head set (top end) along with a front/rear main seals and some silicone.
I'd suggest to sleeve it, just because I have broke 2 b-series sleeves, and it sounds like your doing alot of work, you may just want to save up an extra 1000 bucks to sleeve it
But a pinned B-series with forged internals tuned perfect should be safe and put down some great power.
Good luck!
Jeff
As far as seals, all your really going to need is a Head set (top end) along with a front/rear main seals and some silicone.
I'd suggest to sleeve it, just because I have broke 2 b-series sleeves, and it sounds like your doing alot of work, you may just want to save up an extra 1000 bucks to sleeve it
But a pinned B-series with forged internals tuned perfect should be safe and put down some great power.Good luck!
Jeff
Originally Posted by crx88Si
are you staying with b18b rod length and crap like that or making it a shorter stroke for higher rpm?
b18b crank? or gsr crank?
I've heard that Honda OEM Bearings are the best.
PS. Kevin. Im thinkin about doin the same thing this winter w/a b18b block, b16a obd0 head, IM, and dizzy... can u keep a price list goin? thanks.
b18b crank? or gsr crank?
I've heard that Honda OEM Bearings are the best.
PS. Kevin. Im thinkin about doin the same thing this winter w/a b18b block, b16a obd0 head, IM, and dizzy... can u keep a price list goin? thanks.
well, i just planned on keeping reg b18 rod length, i'm not really sure what all is involved in shortening the stroke, the block i have is completely bare, so i'll prolly use my b18a crank that i have from my hydrolocked engine. so far, the price isn't looking too high.
eagle h beams (from shadowrex)= 200
bare block= 100 :P (people are acting like b18a/b blocks are gold these days)
je pistons and rings= 430 (that's gonna hurt)
new honda water pump= 60
new gsr oil pump= 140
main and rod bearings= 120
bottom end gasket/seal kit= 55
i already have the complete top end though with very low miles, i don't plan on tearing it down. the block hasn't had any machine work yet, i'm gonna wait until after i post it to have it honed and decked....




i'll be keeping my head in tact, so all i will really need is a head gasket and valve cover gasket