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projekteg 11-24-2003 05:40 AM

building block, need suggestions
 
aigh, i'm gonna be building a b18b block this winter, this is the first time i've messed around with internals, but, i'm not really sweating it thanks to the honda service manual that i downloade ;D i plan on doing everything right so that it will last a while. i have a bare block right now, i'm getting eagle h beams this week, and i'll prolly be ordering some je's next week, these are the definietes. now i'm wondering about bearings, seals, etc. i was looking at toga main and rod bearings and it was about 160 for the set, are these good, or would i be just as safe with factory honda bearings? also i plan on getting a new honda oem water pump, and a toga gsr oil pump. also getting a complet hona oem bottom end gasket seal kit. i'll be getting pins for the block and am getting it hot tanked and honed. does this sound like a good set up to everyone? is there anything else that you can think of that will benefit me (besides getting it sleeved ;))

chingro 11-24-2003 08:11 AM

Re:building block, need suggestions
 
boost or NA?

projekteg 11-24-2003 08:19 AM

Re:building block, need suggestions
 
well, it's for boost of course, but i will prolly run it na for a while seeing as how my "car budget" will be spent up for a while after buying everything for the block. i'll be putting a b16 head on it

88crxSi 11-24-2003 09:32 AM

Re:building block, need suggestions
 
are you staying with b18b rod length and crap like that or making it a shorter stroke for higher rpm?

b18b crank? or gsr crank?

I've heard that Honda OEM Bearings are the best.

PS. Kevin. Im thinkin about doin the same thing this winter w/a b18b block, b16a obd0 head, IM, and dizzy... can u keep a price list goin? thanks.

HMT-Admin 11-24-2003 09:33 AM

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I'm a firm beleiver on using factory bearings. I've just seen to many problems with aftermarket ones, people not measuring oil clearences properly, to tight/to loose etc. I'd inspect the old ones real well, more than likly they are just fine and ready to go for another 60k miles. I reused my Main bearings on my built Ls/Vtec.

As far as seals, all your really going to need is a Head set (top end) along with a front/rear main seals and some silicone.

I'd suggest to sleeve it, just because I have broke 2 b-series sleeves, and it sounds like your doing alot of work, you may just want to save up an extra 1000 bucks to sleeve it ;) But a pinned B-series with forged internals tuned perfect should be safe and put down some great power.

Good luck!
Jeff

projekteg 11-24-2003 10:25 AM

Re:building block, need suggestions
 

Originally Posted by crx88Si
are you staying with b18b rod length and crap like that or making it a shorter stroke for higher rpm?

b18b crank? or gsr crank?

I've heard that Honda OEM Bearings are the best.

PS. Kevin. Im thinkin about doin the same thing this winter w/a b18b block, b16a obd0 head, IM, and dizzy... can u keep a price list goin? thanks.


well, i just planned on keeping reg b18 rod length, i'm not really sure what all is involved in shortening the stroke, the block i have is completely bare, so i'll prolly use my b18a crank that i have from my hydrolocked engine. so far, the price isn't looking too high.

eagle h beams (from shadowrex)= 200
bare block= 100 :P (people are acting like b18a/b blocks are gold these days)
je pistons and rings= 430 (that's gonna hurt)
new honda water pump= 60
new gsr oil pump= 140
main and rod bearings= 120
bottom end gasket/seal kit= 55

88crxSi 11-24-2003 10:34 AM

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I would invest for a top end seal kit. You want this to go smoothly. How informed are you on the blocks condition? Is it already machine for flat deck?

projekteg 11-24-2003 10:48 AM

Re:building block, need suggestions
 
i already have the complete top end though with very low miles, i don't plan on tearing it down. the block hasn't had any machine work yet, i'm gonna wait until after i post it to have it honed and decked....

88crxSi 11-24-2003 11:12 AM

Re:building block, need suggestions
 
remember what happened last time u re-used a gasket? :-X

projekteg 11-24-2003 11:17 AM

Re:building block, need suggestions
 
i won't be reusing any gaskets (this time) ::) i'll be keeping my head in tact, so all i will really need is a head gasket and valve cover gasket


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