Slo_crx1

It's basicly already been said, every honda engine/tranny has their good points and bad. There is no "perfect" platform, so basically it tends to boild down to what's the most prevalent platform around and the most cost effective. I've personally only had good luck with d-series in boost form, but I also push my motors in stock form harder than they probably should be (I mean c'mon...who breaks ringlands on an n/a b16 :1 ).

I don't doubt that k-series will get better with further r&d work, but unfortunately honda's engines are turning more towards "environmentally friendly" status than their previous ones which were geared more towards power production.

ososlohatch

hopefully jd scared him off and he will never return.. you can make all the excuses you want but that fastest honda's are still b series

1991civicsi

My dad recently bought an '07 Acura RDX and I sure hope he dosent have any of the problems stated previously in this thread. Anyhow, he was going to get the Subaru Tribeca B9, and I kinda steered him towards the boosted Acura.
For what its worth, he loves it.

Tom-Guy

What the ---- happened to my circus? I thought we had some real experts who were going to correct me?

Sad, spineless little *******.

fe3tcourier

having seen the bulk flaming going on back and forth, i skipped everything except the first page.... and have come to put something purely technical on the table about this.

what side of the head is it on? i'm guessing exhaust. the reason i'm guessing exhaust is that its pretty common practice for the manufacturers, not just honda, to put "free to spin" keepers on the exhaust side. these things usually last the 100kkm warranty, but dont like high revs when the age a bit (even in the stock rev range). what happens is that as they rotate (done to keep the exhaust valves an even temperature) the keepers wear. once the keepers wear, there is an artificial clearance there that hlas, and adjusters cant take up. when thats there, a hammering effect starts occurring, and once it does, one of two things is going to occur sooner or later at any given rpm (though, higher = more likely) and those two things are : end of valve comes off, or retainer is split in two by the hammering of a hard steel wedge into its middle.

i may be way off the mark here, but its common on lots of engines to be designed that way, and its common on mine to fail when being flogged and drop a valve. hence my engine has intake keepers on the exhaust side to prevent any such failures...

can any one who has one apart put a retainer keepers and valve together, one off each side, and try to rotate the valve relative to the retainer? the intake ones will be locked solid one piece arrangements, and the exhausts (if i'm right) will be able to be turned easily with no oil, and whatever pressure you can apply.

i can post some pics if anyone cares...

Tom-Guy

Fred, this is not the place to be constructive. We are having a flame war in this thread, thanks.

Hitchhikkr

Fred, your probably right on the mark. However, the point thats trying to be made by JD and myself to these N/A ******* is that the K-series of engines is infinitely inferior to b's and D's, and probably most n/a domestic engines as well. As HOnda seems dead set on walking in the footsteps of the General.

Manufacturer specs call for valve adjustment at 100k MILEs for normal wear. The engine in question had far less on the clock. Either way, the engine failed. Im sure its possible to remedy the problem easily but we honestly dont give a ----.

fe3tcourier

ROTFLMAO :-)

yeah, i understand that you are talking about an engine with low miles on it. i'm not aware of the other weakness(s) of the "k" engine. like you, i dont give a ----, but i thought i'd slap that up there incase someone else ran across it and went, oh, thats whats wrong with my XYZ.

honda isnt alone in its quest for good emissions, all of those silly jap bastards are trying to save the sky (while killing as many wales as they can) and making our new engines weaker leaving us using old engines with old tech. good thing the tech got high enough before the good ---- ended.

one question : when IS the right time to say something technical and constructive? its like those things get put aside for a bit of fun with ignorant fools...

i'm out. thanks for the laugh JD, that was the last thing i expected to find in this thread. ie, an ultra dry comment.

Tom-Guy

There is no right time to be serious about anything other than hatred.

DrSeuss

I think most K-Series engines are manufactured in Swindon, in the UK.

Which not only explains the poor quality of manufacturing. But also, why its generally a ---- engine.
We british are rubbish at making anything.