Zxc4

i like turtles

Hitchhikkr

Being the fastest N/A car is like winning the special olympics. Your still retarded. :1

That big bad LS your refering to is my daily driven street car. With a stock LS longblock. With parts that i literally pulled out of a dumpster. Its not what I like to refer to as "FAST" it gets me to work and thats about it. If you really want to throw down, with a serious race, I think you need to meet the HOTROD BLACK CRX.

Actually its porsche's fault I cant drive. Because thats who I am. An ASE certified Porsche Technician who just happens to have built quite a few racecars. Most of them of the German variety, some DSM, some honda.

Yes, I was driving down the road. The valve did "just drop" and I knew imediately what is was (being a tech myself, its easy to diag drivability problems on your on car....) and I was absolutely right. Do you know why? Because keepers have been failing on K's since day one. The b-series are nothing invincible, but to see so many failures in such a short time...the k's are no better than any domestic-built engine produced in the last ten years.

-All engines/cars are junk-
Its just what your willing to deal with yourself. We dont want to deal with your kseries. Quit pushing your automotive religion on others.

Dr.Boost

Don't let it die, keep this going.

I'm not trying to say K series suck or that they are overpriced, hyped up, unreliable motors. It just seems that way when you read my posts. :1
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cheapAssTurboKiller

you pushing your "bad religion" on the Ks is what brought me here man. If your a Honda guy and bashing a K thats like black on black crime. lol I am not here to covert you guys to the K but people ------ing bad info slows down the progress and going faster. For you B series guys, do you remember back when the hype all over the net was LSvtec doesnt work, or it will blow up because of this or that? Or the misnomers about the B20s? Just because you had a bad experience with a K doesnt mean its that way for everyone else. If it was as bad as you make it out to be, why dont you see it all over the K boards? There are guys that have had bad experiences with all the different series of Honda engines.

MustangC.

but you do agree a B series is a better platform right? or has it not been proven enough?

ill admit, for all motor purposes i would give the edge to a k series. if i couldnt do 4 B series swaps for the price of 1 K i would probably have one in at least one of my cars in an all motor/nitrous platform.

losesomethinbra

Because most people who run K's had it installed for them and dont know how to turn a wrench.

Exactly! Why is the K an exception and why are you here again?


Post pics of the racecar. I'm guessing its all race and under 1900lbs, which is cool dont get me wrong but it doesnt set the standard for all streetable K's

quadnie

The K motor is pretty much like the JDM trend. It's what's popular so of course the kids with rich parents or the asians living with 5 families in one house are going to get them. This one local idiot gook kid wanted to pay me his gsr longblock/tranny combo for labor for me to install a K series, I gave him my number - I hope he calls because I'd love to pick up a free/cheap gsr block. I actually have a few ITR parts on my integra.. why? Because nothing beats a 22mm rear sway and I just like the feel of that 6 speed shifter versus the ebay knockoff that the car came with (thanks again **** for the shifter!). You won't find any red badges on my car or none of that H-T gayness. The whole ricer trend makes me sick. Green rims on a white hatch - WTF.

It's all hype. Now that's great that you are sponsored and have many at your disposal. I don't foresee anybody here going for them. I think it was Chris or Xenocron who said they are going to start carrying parts because they own businesses and need to grow with the flow. Also the exhaust on the rear side is a stupid idea for the people who want turbo.

Now how is the motor so great when people producing any real power have to hybrid it with B series parts?

Yes it revs high, but when I see boost at 4k why do I need high revs.

Tom-Guy

It's really sad when the spelling on that site is worse than the spelling on HMT, which is the ------- HOOD of the performance world.


Ping, shucka!



There are 1001 carnage threads where 500+ rpm overrev = valve dropping and the entire bottom end coming apart in pieces the size of my thumbnail. I have and have ridden in B-series cars that were force overrevved to 10K that either suffered no harm or just needed the valves relashed afterward, oh noes!!!!1 Let's not even discuss the D16A's that you can remove revlimiters on and drive around on 30K miles revving 8500+ on stock valves/springs/retainers.

Show me a lady driven stock K-series and I'll show you a transmission that will drop second gear before 100K miles. Heaven help anything driven hard, or pushing any power. There's not just a recall on retainers, there's a recall on 02-04 transmissions... not that it made any difference as both new and recalled gearboxes fall apart just as frequently. Compare this to the B-series gearboxes that are adequate in mostly stock trim into the 9's, or the D-series gearbox that is even stronger after you ditch the stock diff - if you have any questions regarding that, ask Bisi, there is a distinct reason he designed and sells H2D adapters.

Excuse me, why is this addressed to Hitchhikkr? This is my thread, I started it, I stated all the reasons why K's suck, and I'm the one with all the K-experience. How come you aren't replying to me, big fish?




Honda died with Soichiro, sorry, you aren't my people. What you have is the profit mongering stockholders who want to turn Honda into GM - look at the plastic body cladding on the Element and the mini-----------ing-Avalanche aka Ridgeline, McStrut suspension that blows before 10K has elapsed, and the clusterfuck wiring/control systems.




What part of this forum being a blue collar DIY forum all about bang for the buck did you completely ------- fail to understand?

No one here cares for you, for your $0.02, and collectively we are wishing you'd go fist a chicken.

Tom-Guy

Nothing. It keeps him from breeding his sister.

JonDouglas

There is quite clearly a difference.

The discussion at hand has a documented history, that of failure.

VTEC guys who claim that you can't make power are arrogant ********* blinded by the hype and obviously have no comprehension as to how an engine actually works.

Why is it that you fail to admit that there are inherent flaws, mainly fueled by economics, in your godly K series? Hell every piece of machinery has its flaws, why are you so hell bent to prove otherwise when there is evidence right before your eyes?

As for the statements about," LS/VTEC back in the day." You had to be a fool to believe all of the negative hype. It truly was baseless. As for the discussion at hand, there is a factory service bulletin documenting a known problem.