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MustangC. 12-03-2008 04:53 AM

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didnt pay that much attention. they are short and thin, what of it? never said it was a good idea.

WTF 12-03-2008 05:15 AM

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bottom end of a factory turbo 1.8L that can take 500hp = not impressed when everything cost way to much and falls apart attached to it

dont even bother posting links to ---- on votex unless its for our entertainment, theres nothing very impressive to see. i never see fast VWs around, all i see is ones for sale people cant sell that they sunk way to much into and its still fucked and barely fast enough to keep up with some shitty honda thrown together by drunk immigrants.

i already know from experience a factory turbo vw is less reliable then a honda i turbo'd on the cheap.


ive turbo'd german cars, (bmw) because there not designed all retarded and fucked over, so im not predjudice against non-jap cars, but vw's are no fun. stupid lookin, break too much, too much $ for not enough performance, thats not the hmt way suckas.

and everyone ive met thats "into" vw is usually a retard, so that says somthing to i guess.

Tom-Guy 12-03-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by flacopower
didn't they engineer the dual clutch transmission that is being used in everything from the gtr to the evo

So? The same factories also design the Porsche stuff, which is by and large ------- bulletproof. Just like the excellence that is an OEM Honda oil filter is manufactured by Fram, who makes the shittiest oil filter ever designed, any factory is going to make it to a different specification directly depending on the design and budget of the entity contracting them.

BTW, the GTR's 90,000 mile factory service log book lists seven slots for when transmission assemlbies are replaced and the new trans' serial number. Awesome example, dude.



Originally Posted by flacopower
werent they the first manufacture to make a twin charged car?

Were they? It must not have been very impressive as I've never heard of it.

Twin charging is meant for diesels that are built to handle that ----. Also, welcome to the literature I read to acquire most of my forced induction theory - non-VW diesel engineers of the teens and twenties.


Originally Posted by flacopower
didn't they introduce direct injection with turbos to increase emissions and mileage recently???

You mean the ones that have serious carbon build up problems because for every good idea VW has to colossally ---- up some required essential part of the design????


Originally Posted by flacopower
Weren't they the first manufacturer to sell a clean diesel in the USA that meet the new emissions standards??

I am sixty miles from the Dow Corning plant that designed and made all the new diesel-compatible ceramic catalytic converters. Take a look at the big trucks they were designed for, THERE'S YOUR CLEAN DIESEL EMISSIONS.



Originally Posted by flacopower
While I agree that the 1.8t isn't that great (my gf wanted a passat and after researching the oil sludge problem I refused to buy her one)

You didn't research any of the other ---- Jesus mentioned???? (disregard, my reply needed more question marks to keep up with your post)



Originally Posted by flacopower
I still think that guy deserves props for being innovative. I think with some tweeks to his design (runners meeting in firing order, shorter runners, larger plenum, one tb) that design has potential.

You mean start over front square one??? (don't disregard, I'm serious)


Originally Posted by flacopower
If someone did something like that on a honda here you guys would be screaming FRONT PAGE... Just sayin

No, they'd have their panties flamed off for not knowing the first ------- thing about about how an engine works. Big plenum short runner makes power, we've known this from when your dad was reading Hot Rod dreaming of buying his first car, and you do NOT ---- around with port *or runner* diameters unless you've changed valve sizes and/or are going for some serious big power and don't care that the engine is going to be gutless off boost or even at low boost.

There's nothing new or innovative to be done in the automotive realm except for learning enough to actually know what the ---- you are talking about, and make setups/parts that don't have major engineering flaws like, um, most anything VW's made for a couple decades.


Now, Flaco, this is the second post I've come across today where you've singled me out as being incorrect or wrong. I'm going to direct you towards my reply to you about what overhyped unreliable pieces of ---- Subarus are as a performance package - you need to shut the ---- up and listen when I speak about technical matters - because I can get really mean. If you need clarification or a detailed explanation as to why I say the things I do feel free to ask, but the overly emotional flamebait replies are getting a little old. Got that????????

J-SMITH69 12-03-2008 04:39 PM

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twin charging was done on big rigs in like the 30s

Tom-Guy 12-03-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
twin charging was done on big rigs in like the 30s

Alfred Buchi was boosting diesels to 5+ bar via twin charging back in the late teens.

nock 12-03-2008 05:09 PM

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did vw release the twin charged 1.4 in us. i havent given a ---- for a long time.

HomeMadeTurboz 12-03-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by flacopower
...didn't they introduce direct injection with turbos to increase emissions and mileage recently???...

Mercedes introduced Direct injection in 1955 in the 300SL

Renualt introduced turbocharged direct injection in 1999

It wasn't for another 4 years that VW came to the table with the same thing.

HomeMadeTurboz 12-03-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by flacopower
...didn't they engineer the dual clutch transmission that is being used in everything from the gtr to the evo???...

Borg warner engineered the box and licensed it first to the VAG group, and then others.

HomeMadeTurboz 12-03-2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by flacopower
...Weren't they the first manufacturer to sell a clean diesel in the USA that meet the new emissions standards??...

Actually they just released the 09 TDI that meets the new standards. Chrysler, GM and Ford all beat them too it with 07 models. Yes they are light trucks, but they still meet the same standards, and all run DPF's. Common Rail (which vw finally has this year, GM has had since the Duramax), and other emissions controls.

MustangC. 12-03-2008 06:46 PM

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i love when joey lays down the law. makes me a little warm inside.


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