thinking about 1BAR
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01-19-2007, 12:02 PM
#22
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Re: thinking about 1BAR
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
D15A/EW series of engine can interchange heads with D16A1. Joey has said this before. :P
Newsflash, you are a n00b who's never tuned anything, and all your points are incorrect.
I own an injector flowbench, you don't. DSM 450cc flow as accurately as any of the aftermarket units I've tested. Since the US government cleaned the gas supply up in the mid 80's so it stopped clogging injectors, well, injectors don't get clogged. Those fuel injection cleaning services are snake oil because - amazingly enough - your fuel filter does the job it's supposed to.
Anytime you shove pressurized air into your engine the flow between cylinders becomes unbalanced. It is no reflection on the injector, and the imbalance increases as pressure goes up.
You do not need individual cylinder widebands or EGTs to figure out which cylinder runs lean, bucko. Us rednecks who actually build, tune, and own cars much faster than a high-dollar 240 whp D-series build have been reading spark plugs for some time now.
Crome Pro + Ostrich > S300, sorry, and is reprogrammable to boot.
I ran a bone stock D16Z6 with DSM 450cc and Greddy kit, 14 psi on GM 2bar and Uberdata, for six months before #2 took a dump. Considering the 19 year old guy who owned it was at the streetraces two nights a week, daily drove the car, and ran from the cops no less than four times (no drivers license) in that period of time I'd say mission accomplished.
Frankly, it's the tune that is reliable, not the pile of parts you purchased without understanding how they function together. Further, I'm not going to tell you dick about what ignition timing values you need to run - you seriously need the seat time with a set of det-cans, or strapped to dyno rollers, deducing your timing on your own. It's the only way you're going to develop real-world understanding instead of justifying how you've wasted money and parroting the crap reasons you were given on Honda-Tech for wasting money.
Newsflash, you are a n00b who's never tuned anything, and all your points are incorrect.
I own an injector flowbench, you don't. DSM 450cc flow as accurately as any of the aftermarket units I've tested. Since the US government cleaned the gas supply up in the mid 80's so it stopped clogging injectors, well, injectors don't get clogged. Those fuel injection cleaning services are snake oil because - amazingly enough - your fuel filter does the job it's supposed to.
Anytime you shove pressurized air into your engine the flow between cylinders becomes unbalanced. It is no reflection on the injector, and the imbalance increases as pressure goes up.
You do not need individual cylinder widebands or EGTs to figure out which cylinder runs lean, bucko. Us rednecks who actually build, tune, and own cars much faster than a high-dollar 240 whp D-series build have been reading spark plugs for some time now.
Crome Pro + Ostrich > S300, sorry, and is reprogrammable to boot.
I ran a bone stock D16Z6 with DSM 450cc and Greddy kit, 14 psi on GM 2bar and Uberdata, for six months before #2 took a dump. Considering the 19 year old guy who owned it was at the streetraces two nights a week, daily drove the car, and ran from the cops no less than four times (no drivers license) in that period of time I'd say mission accomplished.
Frankly, it's the tune that is reliable, not the pile of parts you purchased without understanding how they function together. Further, I'm not going to tell you dick about what ignition timing values you need to run - you seriously need the seat time with a set of det-cans, or strapped to dyno rollers, deducing your timing on your own. It's the only way you're going to develop real-world understanding instead of justifying how you've wasted money and parroting the crap reasons you were given on Honda-Tech for wasting money.
owning an injector flowbench is cool though... at least you can test injectors. I can't, that's why I buy nice ones from a company that I trust
you just found the wrong person to talk to about reading the plugs ... LMAO
also, I'll inform you, the rednecks, that there's a big difference between having a fast car, and having a nice car ... Well, mine incorporates both to a certain degree
and if you say that the tune is what's reliable, not the parts - then you just proved that you're full of ----. And you've made 8 thousand posts here ... OMG
det cans ... lol ... that's for people with ---- loud exhausts, not me son
from all ---- that you posted, you said one useful thing - that you know a person who ran 14psi for 6 months before his cylinder #2 let go. I'm a lot more interested in talking with him than with you
and don't tell me that I don't understand how stuff works, and just go and by expensive stuff ... In fact, it's my money, not yours.
HMT sucks cause of people like you
01-19-2007, 12:07 PM
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Re: thinking about 1BAR
Originally Posted by CspecRun
my buddy has run 15psi on his stock block, don't remember the exact code for that block, it's the one in the 85-86 CRXsi...he's using a d16a1 head...uses turbo from Porsche 944, custom log mani, 450's, wg from Audi 5000, and JRC intercooler...he only made one or two quarter mile passes at that high of boost...wheelspin was murder anyway...car's best pass is like 13.4-5's, don't know at what psi that is though, probaly 12 or 13...
10x
01-19-2007, 12:29 PM
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Re: thinking about 1BAR
Originally Posted by miro_gt
well, I'm not gonna start arguing with you cause you don't know me, you don't know what I do, and you don't know what I've done .... or in short, you don't know ----
Originally Posted by miro_gt
and if you say that the tune is what's reliable, not the parts - then you just proved that you're full of ----. And you've made 8 thousand posts here ... OMG
Originally Posted by miro_gt
det cans ... lol ... that's for people with ---- loud exhausts, not me son
Originally Posted by miro_gt
from all ---- that you posted, you said one useful thing - that you know a person who ran 14psi for 6 months before his cylinder #2 let go. I'm a lot more interested in talking with him than with you
Tell Atlee you wanted to talk to him about his old setup, since Joseph Davis is an ignorant fool. He'll tell you that Joseph Davis bought the D16Z6 for him when he was laid off from work + broke, that Joseph Davis wired the car, and that joseph Davis tuned the car. He'll probably offer to ---- up your dental work for you, too, he's a sweet guy like that.
Originally Posted by miro_gt
and don't tell me that I don't understand how stuff works, and just go and by expensive stuff ... In fact, it's my money, not yours.
Originally Posted by miro_gt
HMT sucks cause of people like you
01-19-2007, 09:26 PM
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Re: thinking about 1BAR
do it! i ran 14psi for a few months with the afc and msd btm on a y8 bottom end. it eventually started smoking so i took it apart and the piston dome/reinglands looked like they were starting to melt. im sure if i wouldve had better management it wouldve lasted for quite a while. just dont expect extreme longevity.
01-19-2007, 09:31 PM
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Re: thinking about 1BAR
A friend of mine runs a d15b with the exact same greddy kit you have at 15psi. He's had no issues with it yet, and it's been beaten a good solid 8 months every day, thanks to Uberdata, me, and his boss's dyno. Like JD said, all in the tune.
01-20-2007, 12:55 AM
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Re: thinking about 1BAR
hey Joseph, you can NOT achieve reliable car only with good tune, you gotta use reliable parts .. you fool
I don't know what det cans are, or what those are used for, or how those are used ? .. LMAO, no comment
and I don't see where I've posted incorrect information. It's probably the fact that I could achieve that much HP with less money is what's bugging you
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but anyways, thanks for all others that posted about stock D engines running higher boost
I'm gonna try my new map tomorrow most likely. I'm still confident in my tuning skills (yeah, looks like I have some)
I don't know what det cans are, or what those are used for, or how those are used ? .. LMAO, no comment
and I don't see where I've posted incorrect information. It's probably the fact that I could achieve that much HP with less money is what's bugging you
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but anyways, thanks for all others that posted about stock D engines running higher boost
I'm gonna try my new map tomorrow most likely. I'm still confident in my tuning skills (yeah, looks like I have some)
