carburetor
02-18-2003, 11:45 AM
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Re:carburetor
But you're also saying.. "Switch form EFI to Carb", you basically toss your ECU out of the window? Where do you plan on the sensor signals to the ECU from? It would be a waste of time.
Not to mention the fine tuning you can do with EFI cars. I mean, ya, you an tighten some screws, port some holes on a carb, but the fine tuning of EFI systems far out weighs that of c arb system, on Hondas anyway.
Not to mention the fine tuning you can do with EFI cars. I mean, ya, you an tighten some screws, port some holes on a carb, but the fine tuning of EFI systems far out weighs that of c arb system, on Hondas anyway.
02-18-2003, 02:28 PM
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Re:carburetor
I guess I just don't see what you're saying..
It's not expensive at all to tune a turbo. How do you plan on tuning your carb? Guessing? You'll still need dyno time.
Also, with the ABUNDANCE applications out there, the prices of things have just dropped.
Plus, take Ghettodyne. It's costed me about $250 for a FULL tuning setup complete with real-time datalogging with EcuControl (Also free). You can't beat that. No possible way.
It's not expensive at all to tune a turbo. How do you plan on tuning your carb? Guessing? You'll still need dyno time.
Also, with the ABUNDANCE applications out there, the prices of things have just dropped.
Plus, take Ghettodyne. It's costed me about $250 for a FULL tuning setup complete with real-time datalogging with EcuControl (Also free). You can't beat that. No possible way.
02-19-2003, 11:36 AM
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Re:carburetor
TurboEF9 hit the nail right on the head. There is no reason you should go to the pointless expense of ripping out your existing MPFI when the existing ECU is very tuneable.
A trip to PGMFI and an intent to spend a couple hours learning will have you a couple ------sheets you can calc your fuel/ignition retard with, a MAP limiter circuit, and information on DIY AFC type hacks in the ~$100-125 range - most of said price being the chip burner and software for it.
There is some P75 based boost code out there for your P06, looks like it works, but the author won't be likely to release a finished .bin as he hate lame leechers. The code is up on PGMFI for those willing to learn enough assembler to figure out how/where to stick it in. Not newbie friendly, and I can appreciate that.
As far as the assertion that carbs suck for turbo... uh, I can't think of a single reason why that would be, and know a number of people who thing EFI is a kludgy over-complicated POS to tune for turbo - and they are 100% right for most applications! Hondas aren't one of them, though.
If I had a carby vehicle I was turbocharging I wouldn't waste the time on EFI, and I'm set up to do about anything fabricationally or electronically. KISS and all that. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
A trip to PGMFI and an intent to spend a couple hours learning will have you a couple ------sheets you can calc your fuel/ignition retard with, a MAP limiter circuit, and information on DIY AFC type hacks in the ~$100-125 range - most of said price being the chip burner and software for it.
There is some P75 based boost code out there for your P06, looks like it works, but the author won't be likely to release a finished .bin as he hate lame leechers. The code is up on PGMFI for those willing to learn enough assembler to figure out how/where to stick it in. Not newbie friendly, and I can appreciate that.
As far as the assertion that carbs suck for turbo... uh, I can't think of a single reason why that would be, and know a number of people who thing EFI is a kludgy over-complicated POS to tune for turbo - and they are 100% right for most applications! Hondas aren't one of them, though.
If I had a carby vehicle I was turbocharging I wouldn't waste the time on EFI, and I'm set up to do about anything fabricationally or electronically. KISS and all that. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
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