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snuffy 02-16-2003 04:53 PM

carburetor
 
has anyone out there ever used a turbo / carburetor setup and got rid of the fule-injection on a 92 d16?

wildman 02-17-2003 05:37 PM

Re:carburetor
 
I would never replace fi with a carby for a turbo setup.. fi is soo much better for turbo. Carbs cant handle the pressure from boost.

snuffy 02-17-2003 10:14 PM

Re:carburetor
 
What about a dram through system.The turbo can be placed closre to intake, exaust can be beter tuned and you dont'
have to spend a life time and a furtun to come up with a fule curv.

TurboEF9 02-18-2003 11:45 AM

Re:carburetor
 
But you're also saying.. "Switch form EFI to Carb", you basically toss your ECU out of the window? Where do you plan on the sensor signals to the ECU from? It would be a waste of time.

Not to mention the fine tuning you can do with EFI cars. I mean, ya, you an tighten some screws, port some holes on a carb, but the fine tuning of EFI systems far out weighs that of c arb system, on Hondas anyway.

snuffy 02-18-2003 12:15 PM

Re:carburetor
 
I dont have any thing agenst EFI but the expense that you have before you can tune.
Also with a carb before the turbo you get great fule wixing.

TurboEF9 02-18-2003 02:28 PM

Re:carburetor
 
I guess I just don't see what you're saying..

It's not expensive at all to tune a turbo. How do you plan on tuning your carb? Guessing? You'll still need dyno time.

Also, with the ABUNDANCE applications out there, the prices of things have just dropped.

Plus, take Ghettodyne. It's costed me about $250 for a FULL tuning setup complete with real-time datalogging with EcuControl (Also free). You can't beat that. No possible way.

Tom-Guy 02-19-2003 11:36 AM

Re:carburetor
 
TurboEF9 hit the nail right on the head. There is no reason you should go to the pointless expense of ripping out your existing MPFI when the existing ECU is very tuneable.

A trip to PGMFI and an intent to spend a couple hours learning will have you a couple ------sheets you can calc your fuel/ignition retard with, a MAP limiter circuit, and information on DIY AFC type hacks in the ~$100-125 range - most of said price being the chip burner and software for it.

There is some P75 based boost code out there for your P06, looks like it works, but the author won't be likely to release a finished .bin as he hate lame leechers. The code is up on PGMFI for those willing to learn enough assembler to figure out how/where to stick it in. Not newbie friendly, and I can appreciate that.

As far as the assertion that carbs suck for turbo... uh, I can't think of a single reason why that would be, and know a number of people who thing EFI is a kludgy over-complicated POS to tune for turbo - and they are 100% right for most applications! Hondas aren't one of them, though.

If I had a carby vehicle I was turbocharging I wouldn't waste the time on EFI, and I'm set up to do about anything fabricationally or electronically. KISS and all that. (Keep It Simple Stupid)


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