The Acclipse Turbo Project (DSM ACCORDS!!)
09-13-2004, 02:02 AM
#341
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 30
Re:The Acclipse Turbo Project (DSM ACCORDS!!)
Originally Posted by 91accordexr33
where at in CO VRD? Im going to go to Colorado this winter to visit my girl, maybe I can see this turbo project first hand...
10-04-2004, 05:57 PM
#342
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 17
Re:The Acclipse Turbo Project (DSM ACCORDS!!)
I need as much info as possible. I have a 90 Accord EX. I bought the manifold and almost had a turbo but the guy decided to get rid of it to someone who offered more money after promising it to me. I see this is working on our cars so I'll blow off the thing I heard about exhaust ports not matching. What I need to know is what all I need. Everything down to the last bolt. I'm so glad other people are doing this and not just putting H22's in (YUCK 
). I love my F. Thanks a bunch.
). I love my F. Thanks a bunch.
11-15-2004, 11:48 AM
#347
0.5 BAR
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 174
Re:The Acclipse Turbo Project (DSM ACCORDS!!)
Sorry it took so long guys but here is your map. I still need more time with it but this is a better revision of the map i've been running since like september.
http://home.comcast.net/~ndd3d/turbof22v5.bin
characteristics of this map (Uberdata Version 1.66):
- Idle moves around from 900-1100 most of the time. But it seems like in hot weather it will idle perfectly at 700 from time to time. But doesn't stall out randomly.
- While picking up speed from a dead stop there is a slight cough at about 2500-2700rpm. It feels like a small speed bump...nothing big but it is there sometimes.
- Throttle response is nice but the a/f ratio dips down into the 11's if not 10's. I'll keep playing with the tps setting on that one.
- If u let off the gas in gear and the revs fall to about 1500 there is a rich spot around that rpm and it'll gain a little speed without the throttle being pressed. Then fall back...hit 1500rpm again and gain speed and lose it and so on.
- Cold idle is still weird. And since i can only play with that once every 3 hours or so it'll take me some time to get right. If your going to drive while in cold idle please notice the dead spot where the engine drops its revs (trust me you'll notice it...try not to hit your head on the steering wheel lol). Just press in the clutch right b4 it does drop revs and you'll be fine. It'll only happen if your using very light throttle.
- Gas mileage is great. 386 miles to the tank. Alot of my work was concentrated on highway cruising rpm's and such. It'll get roughly 29-33 hwy miles/gal without boosting i'd say.
The a/f ratio at 10psi is a flat 11.4-11.7ish from about 2800-till redline and past redline.
Tips:
- Try not to use boost to simply pick up speed too much. I mean its ok but take it easy on your baby. The a/f ratio's for that are sharp but within limits so i'll need more time with that.
- I have a t3/04e turbo with yada yada and such so i flow ALOT of cfm's compared to the dsm turbo setups. If your gonna take out fuel in the boost sections make sure u either have a wideband to accurately measure where your a/f ratio is. If its puffing out alot of black smoke in boost then its too rich and u should take out 1% of fuel around the boost column that your boosting at a time till its not too much black smoke. I'd say leave a little if you do not have a wideband or a very knowlegable tuner with you.
- This will be the map i'll be personally using till i hit the dyno.
Remember that it is a basemap and it will need to be tuned if u do not drive my car specifically
- Remember when making adjustments on the map to make it on 4 points rather than 1 or 2. The ecu reads 4 points at a time and takes an average.
- Do not advance timing if u do not know what your doing.
I thank everyone for they're patience and i look forward to much feedback and enhancements to the map. If you figure something out or fix something by all means please come back and tell us. And if one of u dsm turbo guys tune the map for say a t-25 or a 14b under a wideband please post the map. There are alot more dsm projects than there are turbonetics
And last but not least please remember that if your running really rich in boost that my turbo can push enough air not to run rich. If you experience something like this then please make note that...my car is faster than yours so know your role bishes!!!
http://home.comcast.net/~ndd3d/turbof22v5.bin
characteristics of this map (Uberdata Version 1.66):
- Idle moves around from 900-1100 most of the time. But it seems like in hot weather it will idle perfectly at 700 from time to time. But doesn't stall out randomly.
- While picking up speed from a dead stop there is a slight cough at about 2500-2700rpm. It feels like a small speed bump...nothing big but it is there sometimes.
- Throttle response is nice but the a/f ratio dips down into the 11's if not 10's. I'll keep playing with the tps setting on that one.
- If u let off the gas in gear and the revs fall to about 1500 there is a rich spot around that rpm and it'll gain a little speed without the throttle being pressed. Then fall back...hit 1500rpm again and gain speed and lose it and so on.
- Cold idle is still weird. And since i can only play with that once every 3 hours or so it'll take me some time to get right. If your going to drive while in cold idle please notice the dead spot where the engine drops its revs (trust me you'll notice it...try not to hit your head on the steering wheel lol). Just press in the clutch right b4 it does drop revs and you'll be fine. It'll only happen if your using very light throttle.
- Gas mileage is great. 386 miles to the tank. Alot of my work was concentrated on highway cruising rpm's and such. It'll get roughly 29-33 hwy miles/gal without boosting i'd say.
The a/f ratio at 10psi is a flat 11.4-11.7ish from about 2800-till redline and past redline.
Tips:
- Try not to use boost to simply pick up speed too much. I mean its ok but take it easy on your baby. The a/f ratio's for that are sharp but within limits so i'll need more time with that.
- I have a t3/04e turbo with yada yada and such so i flow ALOT of cfm's compared to the dsm turbo setups. If your gonna take out fuel in the boost sections make sure u either have a wideband to accurately measure where your a/f ratio is. If its puffing out alot of black smoke in boost then its too rich and u should take out 1% of fuel around the boost column that your boosting at a time till its not too much black smoke. I'd say leave a little if you do not have a wideband or a very knowlegable tuner with you.
- This will be the map i'll be personally using till i hit the dyno.
Remember that it is a basemap and it will need to be tuned if u do not drive my car specifically
- Remember when making adjustments on the map to make it on 4 points rather than 1 or 2. The ecu reads 4 points at a time and takes an average.
- Do not advance timing if u do not know what your doing.
I thank everyone for they're patience and i look forward to much feedback and enhancements to the map. If you figure something out or fix something by all means please come back and tell us. And if one of u dsm turbo guys tune the map for say a t-25 or a 14b under a wideband please post the map. There are alot more dsm projects than there are turbonetics
And last but not least please remember that if your running really rich in boost that my turbo can push enough air not to run rich. If you experience something like this then please make note that...my car is faster than yours so know your role bishes!!!
11-15-2004, 12:54 PM
#349
0.5 BAR
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 174
Re:The Acclipse Turbo Project (DSM ACCORDS!!)
the ignition table is a stock dx map besides the boost portion that is. The map itself was done in v1.66. So try it there. I've never successfully gotten a map to open up in 1.7 that was made in 1.66
11-15-2004, 01:15 PM
#350
0.5 BAR
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 174
Re:The Acclipse Turbo Project (DSM ACCORDS!!)
highlights of the turbo cb7 so far:
9.2 @ 76 in the 1/8th @8psi with a 2.1 60' on street tires and full weight
3rd gear pull against an srt-4...had 5 cars on him by the time i hit 4th gear
Pulled dead even with the 450hp awd turbo porsche Cayenne S in a 3rd gear pull @10psi
And snapped 2 driver's side axles so far
9.2 @ 76 in the 1/8th @8psi with a 2.1 60' on street tires and full weight
3rd gear pull against an srt-4...had 5 cars on him by the time i hit 4th gear
Pulled dead even with the 450hp awd turbo porsche Cayenne S in a 3rd gear pull @10psi
And snapped 2 driver's side axles so far
