I have had them brand new from Avid since October. I used them for about 60 miles and removed them since it wasn't very practical for my needs. there is the rub mark that you can see in the picture from the radiator 'leg'. The bottoms of the mounting brackets have been scraped on the ground, but structurally the bars are perfect. $225 shipped in the US. They cost over $300 plus shipping from avid.