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Old 04-30-2005, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrogen
It seems to be a big problem here in phoenix, 50 mexicans will stand on a street corner and just wait for
someone that needs some help to pick them up .. its rediculous, not to mention, think of the crime that
someone without any identity can commit, and crime pays to, compaired to the work they are finding.
everymorning when i have early class, i drive through down town and there are 100+ just standing on the road island. One time i saw a car pull up and stop and they swarmed all over the car like beez opening the guys car doors and ---- all wantin to work. funny/sad/annoying all at once.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:20 AM
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this is my view on it. if someone comes to this country be it illegally, or legally, and expect things to get handed to them, then that is wrong. they should go through school and ---- like the rest of us. i mean god forbid they atleast try and learn our language when esol is free of charge. half of the mexicans dont even know how to read or write their own language when they jump over here. the bottom line is that its ------- with our economy. and the ******** president that a bunch of idiots voted for is allowing this to go by. you know what i think? i think that the army should pickl those people up and haull them off to iraq. do atleast some good.

it really pisses me off when they all sit around, and when a single truck drives by, they all bum rush the guy. its retarted. the police come by day in and day out and arrest them, and they coninue to sit down out there.

julio, i can understand where you are cdoming from. but comparing mexicans and illigals to europeans who went through the system to become an american sitizen is different. ok so maybee back then they had more oppertunity back then, but now adays there isnt as much oppertunity. back then work was abundant and now its not. people need jobs. american people need jobs. and all these other peple are taking it away from them. another thing that pisses me ff, is that they arent bilingual as us. we try to learn some of their language, but they refuse to learn ours. even going to the places catered to mexicans have no english in them whatsoever.


thats ny view on it. if my parents had to go through the rigours of becoming a citizen and learn english, then they should to. plain and simple.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:50 AM
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#1 It's called Ellis Island, you stupid ----, My ancestors immigrated LEGALLY to the United States like most other White people, my other ancestors were native american, not some halfbreed spaniards who killed off the natives of south and central america. And you ofcourse you take the stance of "nobody else would do the job", no ---- not for $1 a ------- hour, If you've got some dude with loads of experience in construction charging 40 bucks an hour versus a bunch of ******* who work for a couple bucks a day, who are YOU going to choose? Not to mention these ******* bring literal assloads of drugs across th border, which wouldn't be so bad if they sold them and went back to muling, instead they set up shop and form mexican gangs to control the drug trade even further.

i mean how ------- greedy do you have to be to grow some coke then transpor it to your own illegally founded "culture pocket" and sell directly to the american people instead of selling it in quantity to the local COKE DEALER. Turf wars, customer gouging, and shitty service have plagued the coke trade since you people set up shop over here.
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:08 PM
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i personaly dont mind if my tax money goes towrd allowing some illegals to live and work in america. if mexicans were legal as you say and paid taxes in THEY WOULD GET BACK MORE THAN THEY PAID IN they would probebly get 2-3 thousand back a year. for there earned income credit if they had children. they would make around 11k a year and be living on there own. oh guess what they get pell grants from fasfa now. so there taking in an extra 2-3k for school and getting a fatty 3k dollar tax return..

so i guess this isint a tax issue anymore is it......
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:10 PM
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you know what...now that i think of it i bet the natives that lived here probaby said the same thing about us.
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:16 PM
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they didn't say anything, they got smallpox and died.
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:22 PM
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bottom line, turbo-maxima noone cares about your ------ mexican pride.

we are simply stating we feel it is wrong for illegal mexicans to ---- with our system. i dont like paying heavier taxes because your dad felt he could outrun a police hummer to make 2 dollars an hr picking strawberries.

i really do think we should deport each and every one of these ******* and if they really cared about being an american citizen go through the right avenues,

honestly if they had to work to be a citizen , most of them would nt do it because they are lazy.

and talk about ignorant. hows this, mexicans cant even afford to support themselves, but they insist on ------- like jackrabbits with no protection and contaminate our country with children we pay to raise because their poor.

they should be calling me daddy. because i pay for them to live.
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:31 PM
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100 people for every job = low wages and 99 people not working

99 people not working = 100 people not paying taxes (that 1 guy working is working poor, so he applies)

100 people not paying taxes and using social services = American taxpayers covering the bill

100 American taxpayers covering 200 people = higher taxes for the taxpayers (covering themselves, and the non paying people.

Illegal population increases = This situation x 100, 1000, ect..

This situation = the same situation in mexico. The same reason they came here.


Of course I'm not talking about every mexican, or every tax payer, but you get the idea.

Low incomes, too many people for the labor demand, more social services needed, more cost that isn't being covered by taxpayers= Mexico.

It's not an underground secret anymore. The reason why California has such a high cost of living is because of these things I'm talking about. Hospitals closing, high car insurance, health insurance, every tax they can get away with, ect....

It's a lose/lose situation for everyone.
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:33 PM
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amen brother steve...
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:53 PM
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I'm getting a D in Macroeconomics because my Indian teacher can't speak english and questions on her tests are "What is are the economic discussion about talked class?"
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