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Old 04-30-2005, 07:20 AM
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holy 50th ------ post turbo maxima, (in this thread)
I dont really care that much about this issue, I just call it like i see.
I've got respect for the work ethic I see from mexican people, I just think
that if you want that american dream, then do it right and be treated like an american,
not a filthy mexican.
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by julio_bOOstamante
this is ------- bullshit. My parents both came here illegally and neither of them stood on a corner to look for work. They didnt even commit any crimes. My dad came here for the same reason everyone else, black, brown, yellow whatever comes here for ..it was for the chance for a better life. My parents both grew up with nothing and now have something to be proud of. a house and the fact that they are legal citizens of this country. i am proud of what my parents have acheived and i dont think anyone else should be denied the oppurnutiy to come make something for themselves.

do you really think the "illegals" you see come here are applying for jobs like architects, or mortgage bankers? ---- no, they are here to fill any job thats available. Its not like they decided, hey! lets take all the jobs from the white man. They come here and mop our floors, cut your grass, pick up your trash, and other ---- jobs that the "white man" either has not time to do or would rather not be seen doing.

Oh and another thing...terrorists dont come through tijuana or any of the other borders. they come thorugh air planes with high tech ---- and make high tech badges and I.D's Mexicans and other immigrants dont even have enough money for shoe laces or toothpaste.

Julio you make points against your side on this. The problem is not that the people want to come here for a better life. Its the fact that they dont do it leagally. They get sick and go to the hospital, who pays for that? Tax payers and medical costs go up to offset the non payment. Illegal aliens drive cars. No license, which means no insurance. They hit you are your crippled for life? So what you cant sue the insurance company. You obviously cant sue them, they have no money and won't show to court for fear of deportation. I agree the border should be locked down, not from Mexicans, from everyone. Times have changed. The US needs to step it up. I don't agree with the rogue militia groups on the mexican border, but if they are doing the job the government can't then so be it.
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:25 AM
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They better be prepared to pay taxes and learn english. I don't want anyone coming here to mooch off the system while Uncle Sam takes his 28% from me every single day.


damn straight, no free rides for people who cant even talk to me in my native language...
Then she'll have to learn Redneck.

Well what pisses me off is that my wife has trouble finding work because she isn't fluent in spanish. She's a legal secretary(or was anyway) and the City of Phoenix and most law firms in Phoenix require bilingual secretaries. Thats why when she finishes her degree we're not staying Arizona. I'm moving her back to Alabama where being bilingual is not a job requirment. BTW her favorite radio show is some preacher that sounds like Cheech Marin. It totally freaks me out listening to him.
at least they are where they're supposed to be... and speak the basic langauge of the country
Boo Hoo you have to be bilingual. Almost every other country they have to speak more than one language. But America is god we only have to speak one language. Its funny how all these third world countries have smarter students coming outta their crappy schools. And our big American schools dont teach us ----.
Sounds like don't even like living here in the US. Why don't you leave? Ah because you know that living here is the best option. Hey there is always our neighbors to the North. Canada is a great country. Health care is ---- but hey, don't get sick!
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actually in canada i dont pay for anything medical (pills included)
but taxes are way higher
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Old 04-30-2005, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ravage70
actually in canada i dont pay for anything medical (pills included)
but taxes are way higher
not all of canada is like that You live in the spoiled province, I pay more taxes so you can have those benifits, its called buying votes. your welcome
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Old 04-30-2005, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by scrotumLIP
------- spics and cannucks, stay on your side of the god damn fence
I can understand that there is a problem that needs to be fix with illegal immigration but dont turn this into a hate thread.
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native americans still arent mexican. julio i hope i die when im 40, ill have lived a good life, lots of money, a nice house hot girls big muscles good job nice cars, ----, ive reached my peak.

you couldnt take steroids even if you wanted too, they cost too much money
Mexico owned almost half of america before America even got here. But America like to rape and pillage, and its still true today.
Please we're ------- amatuers compared to other countries. Take a look back during the 19th century. Study about all the imperialism and nationalism that was taking place. Jolly ole England had itself good part of land across the world. So did France and other Euro countries. But now we're seen as imperialistic ********. So please stop trying to demonize America and take up a new hobby.
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:52 AM
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All I see in this thread is people making excuses.


It doesn't matter if in 1836 a mexican owned anything. If they don't own it today, they have no rights to it.

"If you don't work at Burger King, you shouldn't even care about why the mexican is working there"

You shouldn't care why he doesn't speak english when you're trying to order your food either. And they don't work any harder than anyone else. It's fucken fast food. When you've lived to see it, then speak about it. There are so many mexicans in Ca, that they literally walk around like they own the place. It's fucken sick. You can't trust Juan Valdez at Burger King to do a good job any more than Todd Bremer, so you're fucked. You'd think so, but thats not the case.


Maxima, quit making excuses for people who broke the law to come and rape our system. "You've never broken a law? isn't a comeback as to why these people should be able to brake our laws and come exploit our system.

And if you think that illegal immigration isn't all that big of a factor in the way of wasted tax money, you're so fucken stupid that I can't even begin to start pointing out your flaws of intelegence. I'll sit here and just be disqusted instead. Don't tell me about what's going on in California, texan.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:01 AM
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Have a read. This is what it all comes down to.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html


You have dirty politicians that fight for illegals because they are the working poor. If you strive to give free ---- to working poor people, and they are the majority, you always get your votes to stay in power and keep giving away taxpayers money to criminals (people who's first action in this country was breaking a federal law.)

Read that ---- and tell me you don't see the problem. This isn't some wacked out organization either. This is another club on every college campus, just like chinese 101 or something like that, except this ones overall goal is to teach mexicans that California really belongs to them and they should help destroy the "gringo" and take it back.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo-maxima
your stupid. Income taxes only affect the First $100,000 you make. So everything you earn above that is not taxed by the income tax system. So the top 5 percent and 10 percent wage earners are not paying ----. Get your ---- straight. So everyone making between 50 and 100k is paying all the taxes. Everybody making under 50k are probably getting a little check in the mail even for only $50.
Wow, this post just showed how uninformed you are, I had an internship during tax season at a local CPA's office. I did peoples income taxes for a living and I also just finished taking Tax Accounting at the University of south Florida, If you dont believe me I can post a screen shot of my school schedule. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Everyone making between 50 and 100 k are paying all the taxes? That is the most assanine comment i have ever read.

My term project was on this very subject(income taxes), Adam corrolla last year paid more than a million dollars to the federal government in taxes, Do you know how much he got back? Zero. He actually owed the government 26,000 more.

Would you like another Example? I did my parents taxes this year, combined they made just over 250k, Out of that they paid about 71,000 in taxes, do you know how much they got back after all those huge deductions you are talking about?

$2,376.32 Last time I checked, you are a ------- idiot

And did you realize once you make over 150 k a year you actually lose some tax deductions? One example being you dont get deductions for your dependants.


Please do not comment on ---- you know nothing about, you look like a ------- idiot and you've lost all credibility in my eyes.
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