16g help
#31
Re: 16g help
ha nice, well then i may need to cash out a little more for the turbo, no way a cdm turbo is going on my car.. i want that 300whp but with the right stuff.. looks like ill be searching for that 20g...
what is MHI??
and i wouldnt be able to really tell between a fake or real dsm turbo, so if anyone has any links to a "how to spot a fake" type of writeup, that would be great
i dont trust ebay at all...
and also, if anyones got any turbos for sale let me know
thanks,
matt
what is MHI??
and i wouldnt be able to really tell between a fake or real dsm turbo, so if anyone has any links to a "how to spot a fake" type of writeup, that would be great
i dont trust ebay at all...
and also, if anyones got any turbos for sale let me know
thanks,
matt
#32
Re: 16g help
check goldfarb (store name: turbochargers and diesel injection) on ebay cheap *** turbos i got my hx40 thats on my dsm for like 145 bucks. most have a ungodly large turbine housing made for a diesel but i have seen a t3 20g for a typhoon on there a little while back for 120 bucks plan on picking up one of the et bw s200's that he has.
http://stores.ebay.com/TURBOCHARGER-...ESEL-INJECTION
---- just sell the 14b and re-flange your mani
http://stores.ebay.com/TURBOCHARGER-...ESEL-INJECTION
---- just sell the 14b and re-flange your mani
#33
Re: 16g help
Originally Posted by yamaha6611
ha nice, well then i may need to cash out a little more for the turbo, no way a cdm turbo is going on my car.. i want that 300whp but with the right stuff.. looks like ill be searching for that 20g...
what is MHI??
and i wouldnt be able to really tell between a fake or real dsm turbo, so if anyone has any links to a "how to spot a fake" type of writeup, that would be great
i dont trust ebay at all...
and also, if anyones got any turbos for sale let me know
thanks,
matt
what is MHI??
and i wouldnt be able to really tell between a fake or real dsm turbo, so if anyone has any links to a "how to spot a fake" type of writeup, that would be great
i dont trust ebay at all...
and also, if anyones got any turbos for sale let me know
thanks,
matt
#34
Re: 16g help
Originally Posted by yamaha6611
what is MHI??
and i wouldnt be able to really tell between a fake or real dsm turbo, so if anyone has any links to a "how to spot a fake" type of writeup, that would be great
All ive ever ran are mitsu turbos until recently. However, I strongly feel they are nowhere near the reliability of a properly sized garrett or BW turbo.
The 20g isnt going to last nearly as long as a big 16g. Both have the fail-*** small turbine shaft thats half the size it should be.
Unless you already have a dsm based exhaust manifold, go with the garrett stuff.
Even if you do have a mitsu-feces mani, get something with a garrett based compressor and CHRA. Slowboy's M57/M60 turbos were ------- indestructable and made mad power.
#36
Re: 16g help
Originally Posted by dserieshatch
Or get one of BEP SS DSM housings and rock a holset
Holsets FTMFW!!!
#38
Re: 16g help
see are ther dsm/MHI turbos really that bad? i can upgrade later, i just want my build done in the next month or so... im shooting for anything over 300whp, on the second map, im running a 2 timer remember.. i will only boost daily driving (which will be once every 2 weeks) at 10 pounds of boost, and when i get ancy hit the switch to run the say 17 pound map, and crank up my boost controller. so the turbo will only be actually used at defenately less than what its capable of doing (cause im not boosting past 20psi) and itll only make me what probably 320-330whp cause im not going to use race gas either.. 93 only..
im thinking for what i want, itll be real reliable.. lemme knwo what you think
thanks,
matt
im thinking for what i want, itll be real reliable.. lemme knwo what you think
thanks,
matt
#39
Re: 16g help
Originally Posted by yamaha6611
see are ther dsm/MHI turbos really that bad? i can upgrade later, i just want my build done in the next month or so... im shooting for anything over 300whp, on the second map, im running a 2 timer remember.. i will only boost daily driving (which will be once every 2 weeks) at 10 pounds of boost, and when i get ancy hit the switch to run the say 17 pound map, and crank up my boost controller. so the turbo will only be actually used at defenately less than what its capable of doing (cause im not boosting past 20psi) and itll only make me what probably 320-330whp cause im not going to use race gas either.. 93 only..
im thinking for what i want, itll be real reliable.. lemme knwo what you think
thanks,
matt
im thinking for what i want, itll be real reliable.. lemme knwo what you think
thanks,
matt
#40
Re: 16g help
Originally Posted by crx2211
I'd put my money on Garrett. Nothing wrong with a Mitsu turbo though. Garrett and Mitsu turbos are definitely the top 2 "name brand" turbos. At least IMO and experience.
Actually, the 20G isnt a real turbo. Mistubishi never made anything called a '20g' There is a tdo6H compressor (with a td05h centersection) and various forms of the 17c and 18g, but the '20g' is not a factory mhi turbo. Its an 18g with a bigger compressor wheel somebody made back in the day, and has evolved to what it is now. An overpriced, poorly engineered hybrid.
MHI turbos will last a minute at lower boost levels, I agree. But its a well known problem that the turbine shaft is about half the size it should be. Most of the ppl on this board who run a MHI turbo are in the sub-300hp range, and have no problems. Above that for any amount of time the turbo wont last. I untill recently had a pile of random MHI turbos, and, was at one point making one turbo from three. Trust me though, they do fail.
The price of the MHI turbos VS. the price for the equivelent Garrett unit makes me lean towards the more abundant, better parts market turbo.
The mitsu-feces exhaust housing simply does not have the flow capability of a t3, unless extensively modified.
crx2211, im not trying to argue with you, but you cant put an MHI turbo in the same boat as a Garrett or BW turbo. Price, reliability, function, all fall to the latter two. Thats my opinion based on my personal experience.