hey guys, i decided to change my setup that im going with here for my dohc zc.

since im dropping in wiescos, TT rods and acl race bearings, i thought id shooot higher than 250whp.

im going to pickup a 16g so itll bolt right onto the mani i got now...but i got a few questions first. i know i could google all this info but im hoping to hear from some guys that ran close to the same setup. first off, are the flanges for the 14b and 16g the same? i have a 14b bolted to the manifold now and wonder since its still a dsm if itll bolt right up?

also, how much can i expect from the 16g? im hoping for 350whp.

and lastly, what size lines should i use for the feed? braided steel so the AN sizes...

thanks in advance guys, heres some pics of what im into

 

Well, they say there are several different size 16g's...small, big, evo3, etc.,etc... I'm sure at least one of them is good for 350hp..

 

The big or EVO3 16g's are able to support enough lbs/min to make 350whp on some cars, but they'll be damn near maxed out (i.e. 22-28psi). Yes I know people are claiming 400+ out of the EVO3 variants, but there are other variables they're not listing. 350whp on pump gas out of a 16g is very ambitious. A good t3/to4b or t3/to4e would be a much better decision.

 

word son

 

A friend just put down 325hp with a 16g and 20psi........................ A evo8 twin scroll 16g

 

That's a completely different turbo. IIRC the compressor wheel is only 0.01" larger than a DSM 16g, but the turbo is much more efficient overall. Still, I'd say 350whp out of any 16g is a crapshoot on a daily driven car. No matter what; you'll be pushing it harder than it was designed for and it'll ultimately fail early. Again, a larger Garrett will allow you to make the same numbers without running the **** out of it. Hell, I'd even go with a 60 trim T3 over a 16g lol. The bottom line is that Garrett>Mitsu. The sooner you realize that; the happier you and your car will be.

 

agreed. i have a brand new td05h big 16g (evo1 and evo2). almost same as 16 g except my compressor walls are thicker and can be bored out to fit larger stuff. i'm reading everywhere that this turbo can go for 350 MAX.

as for fitment. the 14b and td05h big 16g (evo 1,2, and 3) all have the same downpipe flange, j pipe flange, and can even interchange the internal wastegate actuator. if you want a 100% bolt on replacement, the big 16g is garuntee hassle free... but if you want 350hp daily.. i'd say look into another turbo =)

 

damn, good ---- guys, thanks alot im not exactly sure what i want to do now, see i was saying 350whp kinda knowing that something wasnt going to go as well as i hoped and i would come up with like 315whp..

awsome info, ill be looking into different turbos... do you know of any dsm's or even any other company that makes a turbo that will bolt right onto my manifold?? something a little bigger, i believe i could go with like a 20g right?

heres what i own now








thanks,

matt

 

there is a pte 50 trim you can get that bolts on to a dsm flange