So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
11-02-2007, 06:47 AM
#111
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Can any0one that lives close enough to MASE in FL go kick him in the dick for me
THX
Yawn... bandwagon huh... Im not even going to state "my unadulterated opinion" 'cause it will get me banned as I dont have a flock of jockriders... Nor have I been good at not being an ------- in the past....
Just because they are (in your opinion) the "front runners" of the industry doesnt give them the right to act like completely unrealistic jackholes... have you read the information thats available cmon man.. seriously...
In MY edited opinion...If you seriously think what they are doing (or attempting to do) is cool... You are seriously disillusioned, or so biased that you ve lost sight of the bottom line... Theres a BIG gap between pitty and support, being the educated fellow that you are I'd expect (or at least hope) to hear a bit of a more soulfull answer out of you....
I venture to say that not only will they miss out on potential future users (they did here).... but they will lose this ridiculous case as well. They are hurting the community. Period. Their code wasnt stolen or implimented into anything ( a misundestanding many people have had)... Some idiot posted it on a site, it wasnt taken off as fast as they like and now they want controll of that board... CAN YOU NOT SEE A CONFILCT OF INTREREST HERE?
Give me a break.... If they win its a sad statement of the judicial process.... Seriously; but then we all already know how that process works out....
Anyways....I will say this: Hey can you tune my EvO? Ive got a burning urethrea... LOL.
FWIW a potential HONDATA customer was lost here.... Im sure im not the only one..... Theres your demographic.
:thumbdown: This whole situation
THX
Originally Posted by Mase
ehh, what a mess. I dont have time nor the desire to get stuck in this craze. I've gotten like 20 emails asking my opinion on this matter....
In brief.
I've always been a supporter of Hondata, and still am. Not that im not a supporter of DYI. But in my experience, which not to be too arrogant, I probably have more experience tuning a vast array of engine management systems than anyone here. Hondata is infact a for-profit business. They are the front runners for the honda scene. They put a lot more into their product than someone writing freeware on their couch. While there are users who want the free stuff, there are more people who want Hondata platforms.
Frankly, this is just another HT bandwagon, everyone jump on the band wagon for poor blundar. While i dont have anything against him (he knows that), I think this pity party is absurd. People love drama, people love the little guy. Dave you've done a lot for people, not saying you havent. My personal opinion regarding dave to be wrong or right doesnt really matter, so i'll refrain from saying anything of sort on the public forum. I do hope you can resolve it peacefully as possible.
At the end of the day, most of the people who are all bitching about hondata, weren't running their product anyways. And the few who do try to boycott are only missing out.
Hondata isnt missing the big picture. They did it for a reason. Their sales wont suffer major, if at all. The people who think so, dont know their demographics of clientele.
Mase
P.S. hi jdavis hope everything is well. up to your usual antics i see :beer:
In brief.
I've always been a supporter of Hondata, and still am. Not that im not a supporter of DYI. But in my experience, which not to be too arrogant, I probably have more experience tuning a vast array of engine management systems than anyone here. Hondata is infact a for-profit business. They are the front runners for the honda scene. They put a lot more into their product than someone writing freeware on their couch. While there are users who want the free stuff, there are more people who want Hondata platforms.
Frankly, this is just another HT bandwagon, everyone jump on the band wagon for poor blundar. While i dont have anything against him (he knows that), I think this pity party is absurd. People love drama, people love the little guy. Dave you've done a lot for people, not saying you havent. My personal opinion regarding dave to be wrong or right doesnt really matter, so i'll refrain from saying anything of sort on the public forum. I do hope you can resolve it peacefully as possible.
At the end of the day, most of the people who are all bitching about hondata, weren't running their product anyways. And the few who do try to boycott are only missing out.
Hondata isnt missing the big picture. They did it for a reason. Their sales wont suffer major, if at all. The people who think so, dont know their demographics of clientele.
Mase
P.S. hi jdavis hope everything is well. up to your usual antics i see :beer:
Just because they are (in your opinion) the "front runners" of the industry doesnt give them the right to act like completely unrealistic jackholes... have you read the information thats available
cmon man.. seriously... In MY edited opinion...If you seriously think what they are doing (or attempting to do) is cool... You are seriously disillusioned, or so biased that you ve lost sight of the bottom line... Theres a BIG gap between pitty and support, being the educated fellow that you are I'd expect (or at least hope) to hear a bit of a more soulfull answer out of you....
I venture to say that not only will they miss out on potential future users (they did here).... but they will lose this ridiculous case as well. They are hurting the community. Period. Their code wasnt stolen or implimented into anything ( a misundestanding many people have had)... Some idiot posted it on a site, it wasnt taken off as fast as they like and now they want controll of that board... CAN YOU NOT SEE A CONFILCT OF INTREREST HERE
?Give me a break.... If they win its a sad statement of the judicial process.... Seriously; but then we all already know how that process works out....
Anyways....I will say this: Hey can you tune my EvO
? Ive got a burning urethrea... LOL.FWIW a potential HONDATA customer was lost here.... Im sure im not the only one..... Theres your demographic.
:thumbdown: This whole situation
11-02-2007, 10:19 AM
#112
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
funny how he made it about himself!
Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
Can any0one that lives close enough to MASE in FL go kick him in the dick for me
THX
Yawn... bandwagon huh... Im not even going to state "my unadulterated opinion" 'cause it will get me banned as I dont have a flock of jockriders... Nor have I been good at not being an ------- in the past....
Just because they are (in your opinion) the "front runners" of the industry doesnt give them the right to act like completely unrealistic jackholes... have you read the information thats available cmon man.. seriously...
In MY edited opinion...If you seriously think what they are doing (or attempting to do) is cool... You are seriously disillusioned, or so biased that you ve lost sight of the bottom line... Theres a BIG gap between pitty and support, being the educated fellow that you are I'd expect (or at least hope) to hear a bit of a more soulfull answer out of you....
I venture to say that not only will they miss out on potential future users (they did here).... but they will lose this ridiculous case as well. They are hurting the community. Period. Their code wasnt stolen or implimented into anything ( a misundestanding many people have had)... Some idiot posted it on a site, it wasnt taken off as fast as they like and now they want controll of that board... CAN YOU NOT SEE A CONFILCT OF INTREREST HERE?
Give me a break.... If they win its a sad statement of the judicial process.... Seriously; but then we all already know how that process works out....
Anyways....I will say this: Hey can you tune my EvO? Ive got a burning urethrea... LOL.
FWIW a potential HONDATA customer was lost here.... Im sure im not the only one..... Theres your demographic.
:thumbdown: This whole situation
THX
Yawn... bandwagon huh... Im not even going to state "my unadulterated opinion" 'cause it will get me banned as I dont have a flock of jockriders... Nor have I been good at not being an ------- in the past....
Just because they are (in your opinion) the "front runners" of the industry doesnt give them the right to act like completely unrealistic jackholes... have you read the information thats available
cmon man.. seriously... In MY edited opinion...If you seriously think what they are doing (or attempting to do) is cool... You are seriously disillusioned, or so biased that you ve lost sight of the bottom line... Theres a BIG gap between pitty and support, being the educated fellow that you are I'd expect (or at least hope) to hear a bit of a more soulfull answer out of you....
I venture to say that not only will they miss out on potential future users (they did here).... but they will lose this ridiculous case as well. They are hurting the community. Period. Their code wasnt stolen or implimented into anything ( a misundestanding many people have had)... Some idiot posted it on a site, it wasnt taken off as fast as they like and now they want controll of that board... CAN YOU NOT SEE A CONFILCT OF INTREREST HERE
?Give me a break.... If they win its a sad statement of the judicial process.... Seriously; but then we all already know how that process works out....
Anyways....I will say this: Hey can you tune my EvO
? Ive got a burning urethrea... LOL.FWIW a potential HONDATA customer was lost here.... Im sure im not the only one..... Theres your demographic.
:thumbdown: This whole situation
11-02-2007, 11:10 AM
#113
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Mase is a big ********, we all know that. He should've just kept quiet about this.
11-02-2007, 01:20 PM
#114
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Dontation made, good luck with the battle. 
11-02-2007, 02:43 PM
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
FWIW a potential HONDATA customer was lost here.... Im sure im not the only one..... Theres your demographic.
:thumbdown: This whole situation
HUH potential customer.......HOLD THE ---- ON............JAGO are you modding or did you hack into BDVT account.
11-02-2007, 02:52 PM
#116
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by Dmc1
Well why was their so much pressure in the line that it busted Jeremy?
Hey Dennis long time no see. I have no idea why it popped, it's the same one that came with the car from 1993, ---- happens ya know..Buy any how I put a new hose on it filled it with fluids and have been driving it up to last week and it's ok, pulled motor to install a new 5th gear sleeve and reverse fork, install the FX500 Clutch, Kaiiiizen Speed balanceshaft elimination, Circuit Worx oil pump gear and finally a F22 trans so I can send off my M2B4 to Gearspeed Inc for a Full Build later on after I get the $2300 saved up
Yeah thats alot but I dont plan of ever having anymore issues after all this. ITS ALL NOW NEW and better than O.E.
11-02-2007, 03:43 PM
#117
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
To be fair? If it was one of the lines in the rear of the engine, I've seen them damaged when installing the engine, if they bang up against the rear mount + stuff. ---- happens.
But, since this is widebody:
But, since this is widebody:
Originally Posted by wafflesincars
widebody93 is full of fail and aids, like that motivational poster.
11-02-2007, 08:33 PM
#118
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
JD your prolly right and your quote why you got to be so mean 
. HEAR NO EVIL SEE NO EVIL
. HEAR NO EVIL SEE NO EVIL
11-03-2007, 10:46 PM
#119
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Yeah Jeremy I aint been back down with my work I never have any time anymore. Ive got a 91 240sx I working on boosting should have it running sometime in early spring.
11-04-2007, 03:24 PM
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Well as soon as I get my Hybrid LSD trans installed onto the motor, get the oil pump gear, get the Kaizen balanceshaft elimination kit,new hoses, and get it back in I"m game to come over to hang with ya for a day. Spring time will probably be best for me too, need time on a dyno though.
