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Old 02-05-2006, 07:26 PM
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I just got a Civic with a auto to manual conversion and i went to try to start it and the starter didn't do anything, so i put in another good known working one that i had and sitll nothing. I checked the grounds and all good there. Now the guy that i got the car from bought it how it was when i got it, as in not running. So I can hear the relay in the engine bay click. I didn't see a clutch neutral safety switch on the clutch pedal so i'm thinking that i need to jump something. Any ideas on what to do with the clutch neutral switch when you do auto to manual convrsion ? Thanks.
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:24 PM
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You will need to make sure the auotmagic gear sensoring thing located next to the origional lever is set in park or neutral. and if you have the correct wiring dirgram you should/can wire it to the clutch pedal to make neutral safty function.

Or what you can do is to hot wire the neutral safty wire on the starter so neutral safty is complety bypassed.
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Old 02-05-2006, 09:30 PM
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I'm thinking that i need to wire it so that it thinks that it's always in neutral or park, just need to figure out how i should go about doing that.
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:03 PM
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If you pull up the center console, all the wiring for the neutral/park safety switch is under there. Usually it's a plug, the two biggest wires on the plug i'm pretty sure are the the ones you need to either hook to a neutral safety switch, or do like i did and just tie them together with no safety switch at all. Also while you're there check and make sure your reverse lights work, as the wires for them are also in that same plug. If they don't work, you'll have to run 2 wires from the reverse switch on the trans back to where that plug is and connect them there.
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:43 AM
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Thanks SLO, I'm going to just tie them together. And i dobut this person hooked up the reverse lights. Also do you think that the starter relay in the fuse box under the hood would click if these wires weren't jumped ?
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:06 AM
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When I changed my 98 civic from auto to manual, I stripped out all of the automagic wires EXCEPT for one that had the same plug type as the backup light. Then I used that wire and plug and extended the wires over to the center console to the back-up light wires.

I didn't run any clutch switches and just tied the starter signal wires together. If you wanted to have a clutch safety switch then you would run the starter signal wires to the bottom clutch switch.

Also if you have cruise control, you need to wire that up to make the cruise control box think that the car is in drive. These wires can go to the top clutch switch or you can just wire them together directly.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:34 PM
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MADMAX did you have to do anything to the IACV ? I see that some people rewired it to a 2-pin style clip. Maybe it depends on the ECU you use?
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Old 02-06-2006, 05:24 PM
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Oh ya, I swapped a pin over on the ecu plugs and used the 2 pin iacv on the harness. Ya I used a GSR OBD2 which uses the 2-pin IACV. The 96-00 DX's and LX's have the 3-pin IACV for both the auto and manual.
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Take the two big fat wires on the automatic selector, and connect them together, or run them to the switch on the back of the clutch pedal.
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