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Old 08-24-2008, 12:35 PM
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The idiots who bash mobil one are trying to find an excuse as to why the motor they built themselves blew up after 5000 miles. They are also the same idiots who use the wrong weight oil to begin with.

There is a reason porsche uses mobil one in everything they build. Its not because its the cheapest. Its also the most widely used oil in NASCAR

Ive never had any problems from it and I run it in all my cars since 2001.
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Old 08-24-2008, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
The idiots who bash mobil one are trying to find an excuse as to why the motor they built themselves blew up after 5000 miles. They are also the same idiots who use the wrong weight oil to begin with.

There is a reason porsche uses mobil one in everything they build. Its not because its the cheapest. Its also the most widely used oil in NASCAR

Ive never had any problems from it and I run it in all my cars since 2001.

Glad that ---- worked for you Franco.......


In my experience,

Mobile 1 is ----. Period.


REASON: My cams consumed my rockers within 1000 miles (Freshly built motor breoken in on dyno oil for the first 250 miles then switched over). Mind you this is a MILD camset and Supertech springs and retainers with ferrea valves... NOTHING crazy...Switched to royal purple and not 1 hint of any type of friction issue since. Also noteworthy: The oil manufactured in other countries doesnt HAVE to adhere to the USA'S gay *** EPA laws regartding additive packagews.

In the states, Mobile 1 is different than abroad. Would lyou like to SEE a comparison (witrh statistical data) done by an unbiased party?

http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf


Notre the pressure load resistance....


Mobile 1: 1540.22
Mobile SYN: 6389.06

Royal Purple: 131,432.00


I know which one I want in my car.... but yyour internals DO look nice as hell!!!!


Everyone I know whom Ive talked to that has had the cam follower gouging issue that has switched hasnt had it happen again. NOt 1.... Mine consumed themselves with the Moibile 1 (and im far from the only one)...


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The mobile1 I got was 'stateside' oil that was purchased on base. The mobile1 oil that was at autobacs, stark, etc. etc. in japan was ALL in english. They had a shitload of different weights but nothing was in japaneese language. Different...id seem to think not. Reguardless I always purchased my oil on base, it was US based oil.

to your arguement, i've had the complete opposite experiences. royal purple absoutly sucked in my motor. I dont think I had that ---- in there for 1000kms...

and no, those A032's are 15's.


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Old 08-25-2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec

Glad that ---- worked for you Franco.......


In my experience,

Mobile 1 is ----. Period.


REASON: My cams consumed my rockers within 1000 miles (Freshly built motor breoken in on dyno oil for the first 250 miles then switched over). Mind you this is a MILD camset and Supertech springs and retainers with ferrea valves... NOTHING crazy...Switched to royal purple and not 1 hint of any type of friction issue since. Also noteworthy: The oil manufactured in other countries doesnt HAVE to adhere to the USA'S gay *** EPA laws regartding additive packagews.

In the states, Mobile 1 is different than abroad. Would lyou like to SEE a comparison (witrh statistical data) done by an unbiased party?

http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf


Notre the pressure load resistance....


Mobile 1: 1540.22
Mobile SYN: 6389.06

Royal Purple: 131,432.00


I know which one I want in my car.... but yyour internals DO look nice as hell!!!!


Everyone I know whom Ive talked to that has had the cam follower gouging issue that has switched hasnt had it happen again. NOt 1.... Mine consumed themselves with the Moibile 1 (and im far from the only one)...


I am always the first person to concede my opinion in the face of empirical evidence.

However, that being said, the oil test described in your link has some serious flaws.

1. All the tests were perfomed at room temperture, or a temp. not disclosed to us. Any multi-viscosity oil is going to react differently at different temperatures. That is the purpose of a multi-viscosity oil.

2. Mobil one is a 0w-40 weight, meaning its ------- thin at low temperatures, and is a 40 weight at operating temp. The royal purple tested, racing 51, is clearly stated to be the equal to a 20w-50 oil.

3. It is unclear if the opinion is biased or not. Since the test is flawed, it may be. But then again, we didnt see the test performed, and we dont know who they work for/why they did it. They easily spent $1000+ just to do this test, I dont know about you, but I dont have that cash laying around. Somebody paid for them to do this test. We dont know who.

Im not arguing with you Brian, just want a clearer view of the issue. I personally wouldnt mind a better oil, if its within my price range. I get Mobil 1 FREE. If there is a significantly better oil out there thats worth the cash, I would be convinced.
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I use mobile one 15w50 w/ the mobile one oil filter, its truely race proven!
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Originally Posted by Birdley42008
I use mobile one 15w50 w/ the mobile one oil filter, its truely race proven!
I hate that 'race proven' line whenever someone uses it I want to bitch slap them.

I can race a yugo. And lose. Does that mean that Yugos' are race proven? Yes. Proven to fail.
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Rotella T + Supertech filters for life ******
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Originally Posted by TorganFM
Rotella T + Supertech filters for life ******
+1

All you high dollar ------ make me sick.
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec


In my experience,

Mobile 1 is ----. Period.


REASON: My cams consumed my rockers within 1000 miles (Freshly built motor breoken in on dyno oil for the first 250 miles then switched over). Mind you this is a MILD camset and Supertech springs and retainers with ferrea valves... NOTHING crazy...Switched to royal purple and not 1 hint of any type of friction issue since. Also noteworthy: The oil manufactured in other countries doesnt HAVE to adhere to the USA'S gay *** EPA laws regartding additive packagews.


Everyone I know whom Ive talked to that has had the cam follower gouging issue that has switched hasnt had it happen again. NOt 1.... Mine consumed themselves with the Moibile 1 (and im far from the only one)...
Did you break in the cam properly which cams you resurface the rockers before the new cam?

Alot of cam manufactures recommend shell rotella T for break in on the cams on due to the fact that it has zinc in it. I've always used it for cam break in and never had an issues. Crane says that they won't even warranty a cam if rotella t isn't used for break in. The fact that it didn't happen again it after you switched was prolly due to the fact that the cam was already broken in.

I highly doubt it had anything due to the mobil 1, porsche is the most ---- manufacture in the world, they wouldn't use it if it sucked. ----, they built a rotating engine dyno to simulate the oil splashing around in the engine like on the 'ring.
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----, they built a rotating engine dyno to simulate the oil splashing around in the engine like on the 'ring.
Well after the 928 pile of fail I suppose they felt the need to make up for it.
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