OnYx

yes my camaro has a nice 396 in it now, it fits fine and as to the camber Q, the added weight and the direction of tilt will cause some camber problems but with the correct mount kit it shouldent be a big issue but it DOES exsist.
Lets do a small prce comparison. i am using www.hmotorsonline.com as a source for both motors to be fair. i know they are not the cheapest dealer but they area stable dealer.

B18C 94-00 (GSR) Complete Change Over

Price: $ 3199.00 Plus shipping and handling.
Availability: In stock and ready to go.



- Motor
- Hydrolic Tranny (S80, Y80)
- ECU (P72)
- Axles with Half Shaft
- Shift Linkage
- Stock Motor Mounts
- Alternator
- Starter
- Clutch
- Flywheel
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Engine Harness
- Comes With All Sensors Needed
- LSD Tranny (Optional +$300)

Motors average 35,000 miles and come with a 100% start up warranty. All Sensors are guaranteed not broken and in working condition. Direct bolt up to 92-01 civics W/O mounting kit.


H22 97-98 TypeS Complete Changeover (Prelude)

Price: $ 4400.00 Plus shipping and handling.
Availability: In stock and ready to go.



- Motor
- Hydrolic Tranny
- ECU
- Axles
- Shifter Cables
- Shifter Assembly
- Stock Motor Mounts
- Alternator
- Starter
- Clutch
- Flywheel
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Engine Harness
- Comes With All Sensors Needed

Motors average 35,000 miles and come with a 100% start up warranty. All Sensors are guaranteed not broken and in working condition!
And you stil have to buy the mounts an fabricate the A/C bracket to get that to work. even with a lesser H22, this one lists at the bottom what the extra charges are for the mount kit ---- linkages and axels.

H22A 92-95 Complete Change Over

Price: $ 2199.00 Plus shipping and handling.
Availability: In stock and ready to go.



- Motor
- Hydrolic Tranny
- ECU (P13)
- Axles with Half Shaft
- Shifter Cables
- Shifter Assembly
- Stock Motor Mounts *
- Alternator
- Starter
- Clutch
- Flywheel
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Engine Harness
- Comes With All Sensors Needed
- LSD Tranny (Optional +$300)

Motors average 35,000 miles and come with a 100% start up warranty. All Sensors are guaranteed not broken and in working condition!

* If you need a motor mount kit for your 1992-2000 civic, we can supply you with the hasport kit for $490. Prices valid with purchase of a complete changeover only. Also available is the correct axles for swapping this motor into a civic. 90-93 Integra axles and 90-93 Accord Intermediate shaft can be included for an additional $200 (please note that stock H22 axles will not be included if you opt for the civic axle combo).

so all in told $2889 for this swap with the correct axels and mount kit. I would proberly go with the B18c1 and get LSD and have an easier swap particularly if its your first swap. If this is not your first swap do what you think would be good and at your level. I have to agree with jeff, h22/3=boat anchor, but do waht you want, its a large chunk of change to be playing with unless you know what the hell you are doing.

rebirthtime

damn everyone is hatin on the H22 swaps... that ---- is ill regardless of waht happens its a different swap and check out the ------- 725 hp civic with turboed H22 in the last issue of HCI thta ---- is INTENSE id say GO FOR IT..

Chacko

PFI in Fort Collins, CO has a turbo H22A in their shop CRX pushing 720 whp.

Am I impressed? ---- no, they've spent at least 80 grand on that car in the past 4 years.

KO_SI

H22's are the ----,, go for it, no matter what people say. itll ---- up your handeling for ever but ---- it,, you got power!!

b16_destroyer

Let's see; 4 to 5 years ago people were saying "B series in a Civic or CRX, you'll have to cut & weld the motor in your car + it will cost like 8G's for a shop to do it + you have to rewire the entire car!!! Dude go with the ZC it bolts right in and only costs $400 (that was back in 1998-1999)

Then Hasport and other companies started making swap kits from 2000-2002. People have abandoned the ZC because of its mistery parts and wiring problems. Now you see just as many B16's in Civics as you saw ZC's in their cars back in 1999. Then the same guys were saying "Dude don't go TypeR, it costs too much. Go with LSVTEC and you'll run 12's" We all know how reliable that motor is.

Now 2003 the CRVTEC, GSR, and TypeR swaps are becoming very popular. Same guys again saying "Dude and H22 weighs more than your entire car and it will steer like you have an elephant on the hood!!! + it leans the wrong way so you will have mount issues!!!" NOT ANYMORE!!! Thanks to PlaceRacing, Hasport and other companies we are now able to fit the Honda Bigblock into our cars with no problems by buying their mount kit.

I bet by 2005 you will see more H22's in Civics because of popularity, technology, and the need for speed. Dude, don't jump on the band wagon; do the H22 swap and show everyone how BIGGER IS BETTER!!!

No, I don't have and H22 swap; but I do have a B18B1 T3T4 turbo setup in my 87 CRX Si. Trust me, you will be happier with the H22 over any other Honda block.

just my .02

Chacko

Yes, thats right lets completely ignore the fact that people are experiencing problems with axle snaps because of the weight distribution.

No one is making ------- axles for this swap that I have come across yet.

b16_destroyer

not yet but "IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME"

OnYx

I ran across this issue of honda tuneing for this mont htaht has an H22 swap in a 93 civic HB. If you really wnat to know what is involved read the artical and deside if you are capeable of doing it. They say it is a difficult swap and not for a novice. check it out!