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Old 03-12-2004, 01:35 PM
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while you have the haed off, put the plugs back in, turn it upside down and fill it with oil and see if any leaks out. that will identify the valves not sealing properly.
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Old 03-12-2004, 05:27 PM
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Maybe this willl help.

With there being 0 compression on one cylinder, and low compression on two adjacent cylinders, I would suspect components that are common to both cylinders, like the head mating surfaces, and the head gasket.

To be really sure, perform a leak down test. There are tools for this, but you can use an air hold tool, or anything else that will let you put compressed air in the cylinders through the spark plug hole. You could even weld a male air fitting to one of those goofy anti-fouling adapters. Connect whatever tool you have or can borrow. 90 Psi should be more than plenty. Expect the cylinder to move to the complete bottom of the stroke, which is fine. Both valves will need to be fully closed!

Listen to where the air is escaping, and you will have found your problem. Air coming out of the following locations are probably due to the matching problem.

Throttle Body = Intake valves
Exhaust Pipe = Exhaust Valves
Radiator = Head Gasket
Oil filler = Rings

That should cover it!

If your compression figures were reasonable, an actual leak-down check would tell you your percentage of leak, which could be used to determine the ring or valve sealing issues. Since your numbers are so bad, there is a major problem you need to deal with, and the percentage is not even an issue at this point.

Hope that helps!

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Old 03-12-2004, 05:31 PM
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Oh Yeah...I forgot...you can do a leak-down test with the engine fully assembled. No taking the head off, or screwing with any of that crap.
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Old 03-12-2004, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by crx88Si
while you have the haed off, put the plugs back in, turn it upside down and fill it with oil and see if any leaks out. that will identify the valves not sealing properly.
I just got done doing that, nothing leaks out. thanks fot that info turner toys, I wish I would have read that before I took the head off. I sending the head out, and I might pull the pistons to see the rings. thanks again
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:34 PM
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also put some assembly lube on the head studs b4 you put them in.. you'll get more accurate tq.

also, did you re-use head studs? (coughARPcough)
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:40 PM
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Did ya use a torque down squence so u didnt warp the head, sounds like you have a warped head or you need a valve job my man
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