View Poll Results: What engine would you start your build project around?
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If you could pick any japanese engine, what would it be?
#41
Re: If you could pick any japanese engine, what would it be?
Originally Posted by Toysrme
LMAO I wouldn't pick any of them.
They'd all be Toyota's tho... Cept maybe the odd 13b, or 20b installation for funzies.
1gz-fe = 5.0L v-12
3ur-fse = 5.7L v8, direct injection & dual vvtl-i
uz-fe family of v8's for insane hp per dollar.
Or the older 3vz-fe / 5vz-fe v6's.
I'd never pick an i4 to start a project. If you can fit an i4. You can fit a much higher potential, and more powerful v6 into the same space.
They'd all be Toyota's tho... Cept maybe the odd 13b, or 20b installation for funzies.
1gz-fe = 5.0L v-12
3ur-fse = 5.7L v8, direct injection & dual vvtl-i
uz-fe family of v8's for insane hp per dollar.
Or the older 3vz-fe / 5vz-fe v6's.
I'd never pick an i4 to start a project. If you can fit an i4. You can fit a much higher potential, and more powerful v6 into the same space.
#42
Re: If you could pick any japanese engine, what would it be?
Originally Posted by rawr
I thought all of that crankshaft noise was fixed with on the 205's. do 2jz's not have the same problems? same manufacturer, probably the same alloys.
Originally Posted by Toysrme
I'd never pick an i4 to start a project. If you can fit an i4. You can fit a much higher potential, and more powerful v6 into the same space.
#43
Re: If you could pick any japanese engine, what would it be?
I dont think there is enough info here, I would really want to know what the project was before I decided on a engine. I still think the b series are great, maybe not in stock form anything you can through rods and pistons at and run 450 whp all day long on a pump gas with a stock trans and have it bullit proof is good with me BUT if were going to be building a 69 camaro........................you see my point.
#44
Re: If you could pick any japanese engine, what would it be?
Originally Posted by rawr
hook it up with a 1mzfe and i'll throw it in my celica and try it out :P
They also are not nearly as strong as the 420lb VZ's that came before them. You can take the VZ's way out over 500bhp with no major work. Headgasket swap & staying on the ball with tuning.
JD
10000rpm cranks? IDK I'm sure some of the newer Toyota cranks could. I can't think of a weak crank they've made since the 80's. In the early/mid 90's they finished phasing out all of their older construction types. They moved them all to tool steel during that time, or killed off the engine families that used them. Woot woot
Yes i4's have their place, but ya gotta see my point. If the typical 200-240lb i4 will fit, a 340-400lb v6 will fit better with way more power.
hehehehe rawr keeps up with it. It's common for a BPU'ed 3s-gte MR2's to run around 14.2s 1/4m times. You throw a bone stone 3.0L 1mz-fe v6 in the car & they run 14.5 all day. Way stronger until the end of the track. You get on a real racing circuit you can lap the 3s-gte cars all day long with roughly 100bhp less from having a much mroe accessable powerband.
And when you get to the point of having to start upsizing the turbo's for the i4's to compete. They just get flogged for not having a powerband against slapping a turbo on the 6 cylinder muwahahaha
Ya I mean, I think it's cool there have been some i4's floating around for the last 15 years that can put out 300-350bhp'ish daily driven. Some of them dyno queening it up to 450bhp. (3s-gte, 4g63, etc.) btw 4g63's are pieces of royal ----. I'd rather close the deck on a Honda engine & throw new pistons & rods in there than run one of those son's of bitches. 3s-gte's are not 450bhp daily driveable engines (none of them are...) But atleast they're reliable. The only downside to 3s-gte's is they can be alittle leak-happy, but ---- it. Full gasket kit from Toyota is around $80-120usd.
Anyone else wanna second anyone chosing:
- Honda D series
Nissan SR20
Nissan RB26
Nissan VG30
Toyota 4AGE
Toyota 1JZ
Mitsubishi 4G63
Mitsubishi 6G72
Subaru EJ20
are dumb for picking engines where their are better engines in that particular class? You know... If you're picking an engine to START a project with. Pick the winners...
And ya I'd have taken a B-anything over that piece of ---- 4a I use to have. My god... Some engines just do not desirve their reputation AT ALL.
#47
Re: If you could pick any japanese engine, what would it be?
i'm just trying to get some opinions on what engines are good and why. project doesn't matter really, i'd prefer opinions on rear wheel drive engines but i included fwd engines because they can be applied to some creative projects as well. i guess i should have added some criteria, maybe like availability, price, potential for good power to weight ratio, aftermarket support... whatever comes to people's minds for why they would choose one particular engine as a great starting point. and lets get some more damn votes here, with over 300 views and only 81 votes, that's less than 30% c'mon people!
#48
Re: If you could pick any japanese engine, what would it be?
if I was to start a new project right now it would be a 1969ish austin mini, stripped with a turbo hyabussa(rear mounted), rear wheel drive SUPER LIGHT WIEGHT, chain drive, solid rear axle, 10 inch tires, 4 pot disc brakes............................. ultra fast, light wieght street legal gocart. Flat black, lowered, small old school flares, fairly stock looking.
#49
Re: If you could pick any japanese engine, what would it be?
Originally Posted by weiRtech
i'm just trying to get some opinions on what engines are good and why. project doesn't matter really, i'd prefer opinions on rear wheel drive engines but i included fwd engines because they can be applied to some creative projects as well. i guess i should have added some criteria, maybe like availability, price, potential for good power to weight ratio, aftermarket support... whatever comes to people's minds for why they would choose one particular engine as a great starting point. and lets get some more damn votes here, with over 300 views and only 81 votes, that's less than 30% c'mon people!
SR20det. With a good head, stock bottom end and good fuel management, you can have 500hp daily drivin. 4cyl, engine doesnt weigh a ton (the block can be shipped through the dam post office for dam sakes) parts are becomming very abundant...