I hate christians.
07-09-2007, 01:53 AM
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Re: I hate christians.
Not do be a dick or anything, Amkrew, but what bible do you follow? Do you have any education over the development of western civilization, especially regarding the papacy and the development of protestantism? Are you sure of where the roots of the theology you follow come from? You sound like you roll with an evangelistic style theology, a theology that's been filled with a ton of silly, fabricated bullshit within the last 500 years, directly traceable to the people who twisted their own schema's on Christianity. The people who molded Christianity into a more loving, acceptable, easy to follow religion than traditional catholicism, like John Calvin and Martin Luther, the CoE and to philosophers like Descartes who shaped many peoples ideas as to exactly what god is based off of his own personal rational thought process and personal morality and eventually leaked over into practiced faith. Personally, you could be following a deviant, hedonistic version of Christianity that would damn you to hell just off of your idea of being saved in general and not even know it.
07-09-2007, 02:32 AM
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Re: I hate christians.
It's all there. I study the Bible, not theology.
If you do have some insight on these things you say that I lack, please share them. I'd be happy to listen. But please, keep the 4 dollar words to a minimum for me.
But if you're saying that my faith is somehow compromised because I don't hate people who don't accept my religion, you've got it backwards, sir. It's not my job to hate.
If you do have some insight on these things you say that I lack, please share them. I'd be happy to listen. But please, keep the 4 dollar words to a minimum for me.
But if you're saying that my faith is somehow compromised because I don't hate people who don't accept my religion, you've got it backwards, sir. It's not my job to hate.
07-09-2007, 02:46 AM
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Re: I hate christians.
Originally Posted by krustindumm
What makes someone think that their religion has any better chance of being true than any other religion?
Oh, it's written in a book? There are religions that have a written history predating any christian writings.
God damnit there are some people I want to stab.
Oh, it's written in a book? There are religions that have a written history predating any christian writings.
God damnit there are some people I want to stab.
07-09-2007, 02:56 AM
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Re: I hate christians.
Originally Posted by AMkrew
It's all there. I study the Bible, not theology.
If you do have some insight on these things you say that I lack, please share them. I'd be happy to listen. But please, keep the 4 dollar words to a minimum for me.
But if you're saying that my faith is somehow compromised because I don't hate people who don't accept my religion, you've got it backwards, sir. It's not my job to hate.
If you do have some insight on these things you say that I lack, please share them. I'd be happy to listen. But please, keep the 4 dollar words to a minimum for me.
But if you're saying that my faith is somehow compromised because I don't hate people who don't accept my religion, you've got it backwards, sir. It's not my job to hate.
07-09-2007, 04:47 AM
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Re: I hate christians.
Originally Posted by krustindumm
the ORME part is ------- crazy, who cares about the aliens.
the original hewbrew genesis speaks of MORE THEN ONE GOD. and then they were concerned about man’s attempts to build new and wondrous things, such as:
"And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do; and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us (meaning more then one) go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." -- Genesis 11: 6-7
why would a tower built to reach heaven give any concern to a true Supreme Being?
and also ---- like
"And the Lord God said, Behold the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever;" -- Genesis 3: 22
so there was an eye opener for naked adam and naked eve. but there was everlasting life too? and if we did that we'd be what... gods?
a crap load of inconsistancies like
- God placed Man in the Garden of Eden -- then threw him out. In the process, He blessed Man
- He cursed Cain. then he protected him
- Man fell out of favor and wanted to WIPE OFF MANKIND with the DULGE or the flood. but then Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
very inconsistent God -- even one possibly schizophrenic. Either that or there is more then one god.
one that truely cares for mankind and the other wants mankind dead (lord thy god) is the very one that kicked us out eden because we learn knoledge. the same god that allowed the Dulge to kill off mankind.
yet there is the kind god that saved noah and his family. the same kind god told us to eat of the fruit and have knoledge. the same god that wants us to question and have a mind of our own, that same kind god many charistain call the serphant Satan or Lucifer.
it's strange everything that the satan did was IS and has been a benifit of mankind. yet it's the let mankind die in the fucken flood, i will fucken kill you, stone that ----------er Lord thy god that say's satan is the bad guy. no.. it's the other way around..
ripped it a new ------- it did do..
link for those intrested. for a MUCH better chip chopping of the bibble.
http://www.halexandria.org/dward180.htm
07-09-2007, 05:13 AM
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Re: I hate christians.
The major issue I have with Christianity is the excitement when terrible acts in nature etc occur that the rapture is near.
Im sorry nothing in our lifetime besides nuclear war will be any more sickening and disturbing then the Jewish holocaust. For gods people they sure get the rough end of the stick. I never got to know half of my family because they were exterminated. The only thing I have is a name that was attempted to never be of life again.
I was watching dateline and they had a bunch of survivors of the holocaust. They described watching their families burned to death and the smell of flesh burning in the air. The conditions that none of us can imagine. A very old polish jew by the name of Schwartz was asked if he noticed a number on his files the ****'s kept on him. His response was I see it everyday. The number is tatooed on his forearm. His answer was simple,yet sweet when asked about how he felt about the number. When I see god all I need to do is show him my arm has its my pass to peace.
Now Christian faith states that for one to enter Heaven one must accept jesus in all forms and has the savior. Now I would love to see a any Christian tell someone like Mr. Schwartz that they will spend there eternity in Hell. Thats my issue. The self righteous idea that some 2 buck ----- who goes to church and wears a cross is worth more than someone of another faith.
If god and his son thinks my family or Mr. Schwartz's family who were so wrongfully battered,beaten, abused and murdered belong in hell than you know what I don't what to know him or his son.
I don't ask for prays from anyone. No one listened 60+ years ago why should it change today. I would of loved to meet the Malecki/Maletsky family but I guess God just didn't care enough to let them live.
Im sorry nothing in our lifetime besides nuclear war will be any more sickening and disturbing then the Jewish holocaust. For gods people they sure get the rough end of the stick. I never got to know half of my family because they were exterminated. The only thing I have is a name that was attempted to never be of life again.
I was watching dateline and they had a bunch of survivors of the holocaust. They described watching their families burned to death and the smell of flesh burning in the air. The conditions that none of us can imagine. A very old polish jew by the name of Schwartz was asked if he noticed a number on his files the ****'s kept on him. His response was I see it everyday. The number is tatooed on his forearm. His answer was simple,yet sweet when asked about how he felt about the number. When I see god all I need to do is show him my arm has its my pass to peace.
Now Christian faith states that for one to enter Heaven one must accept jesus in all forms and has the savior. Now I would love to see a any Christian tell someone like Mr. Schwartz that they will spend there eternity in Hell. Thats my issue. The self righteous idea that some 2 buck ----- who goes to church and wears a cross is worth more than someone of another faith.
If god and his son thinks my family or Mr. Schwartz's family who were so wrongfully battered,beaten, abused and murdered belong in hell than you know what I don't what to know him or his son.
I don't ask for prays from anyone. No one listened 60+ years ago why should it change today. I would of loved to meet the Malecki/Maletsky family but I guess God just didn't care enough to let them live.
Originally Posted by AMkrew
But, we love you. So much. Enough to endure criticism, jokes, and persecution.
The Bible is actually a collection of "books" written by many different people, over many lifetimes. It has answers to many different questions, and provides an account of the example for us to live by. It tells the story of Jesus Christ, our savior, many hundred years before he ever came. Those of the Jewish faith were looking for someone very powerful becoming an actual King on earth. When, in actuality, it was much more spiritual than that.
The Bible states that at one point, many will be against any form of religion. I see this happening. Please, if in your lifetime, you are confronted with denying Christ as your savior, don't do it. It's a gift freely given from above. If you're interested, read a little in the book of Isaiah in the old testament, he tells of the coming of Christ many hundred years before He came.
A "man" will come to power asking you to deny Christ, try to unite many people in his own name, and bring about a false peace in areas that it seems peace will be unbelieveable. This man is the anti-christ. I only speak these words of warning because I felt cheated out of 21 years of my life, from before I accepted Christ. I cheated myself, by not deciding to accept earlier. These are prophesies from the Bible, that will eventually come true. The last book in the bible, Revelation, tells of the end-times. I recomend that everyone should read that book in the Bible, as it tells of signs of the final coming of Christ. Some of those things seem to have already begun.
Nobody has proof against the existance of God, and furthermore, there is much proof for the existance of Jesus Christ. If there's so much proof of Jesus being on earth and that He's the Son of God, how can there even be a question?
I never push my religion on anyone. Just as it was my free choice to accept of deny, everyone else will need to decide for themselves. I am just doing what God has directed me to do... Sling seeds. If the seed doesn't grow, it's not my job to MAKE it grow. I'm to move on and sling more elsewhere.
By the way, JD, the Bible talks about people who God sees will never accept. You see He is omni-present, and omnipotent. He is at the begining and the end at the same time. He knows all. He decided to "harden the hearts", meaning take away the "burden" of conviction, of some of those who he knew would never accept. Let us hope that this is not the case for your lack of conviction. I will pray for you, even if you decide that it's not worth doing for yourself.
Cliff notes: Turbochargers ftw.
The Bible is actually a collection of "books" written by many different people, over many lifetimes. It has answers to many different questions, and provides an account of the example for us to live by. It tells the story of Jesus Christ, our savior, many hundred years before he ever came. Those of the Jewish faith were looking for someone very powerful becoming an actual King on earth. When, in actuality, it was much more spiritual than that.
The Bible states that at one point, many will be against any form of religion. I see this happening. Please, if in your lifetime, you are confronted with denying Christ as your savior, don't do it. It's a gift freely given from above. If you're interested, read a little in the book of Isaiah in the old testament, he tells of the coming of Christ many hundred years before He came.
A "man" will come to power asking you to deny Christ, try to unite many people in his own name, and bring about a false peace in areas that it seems peace will be unbelieveable. This man is the anti-christ. I only speak these words of warning because I felt cheated out of 21 years of my life, from before I accepted Christ. I cheated myself, by not deciding to accept earlier. These are prophesies from the Bible, that will eventually come true. The last book in the bible, Revelation, tells of the end-times. I recomend that everyone should read that book in the Bible, as it tells of signs of the final coming of Christ. Some of those things seem to have already begun.
Nobody has proof against the existance of God, and furthermore, there is much proof for the existance of Jesus Christ. If there's so much proof of Jesus being on earth and that He's the Son of God, how can there even be a question?
I never push my religion on anyone. Just as it was my free choice to accept of deny, everyone else will need to decide for themselves. I am just doing what God has directed me to do... Sling seeds. If the seed doesn't grow, it's not my job to MAKE it grow. I'm to move on and sling more elsewhere.
By the way, JD, the Bible talks about people who God sees will never accept. You see He is omni-present, and omnipotent. He is at the begining and the end at the same time. He knows all. He decided to "harden the hearts", meaning take away the "burden" of conviction, of some of those who he knew would never accept. Let us hope that this is not the case for your lack of conviction. I will pray for you, even if you decide that it's not worth doing for yourself.
Cliff notes: Turbochargers ftw.
07-09-2007, 08:58 AM
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Re: I hate christians.
Originally Posted by blade8r
you think that's crazy you should read the part about Genesis. they rip that book a new ------- and actualy write out every piece of contradictions when it came down to actuall hebrew transulation (compared to the king james version)
the original hewbrew genesis speaks of MORE THEN ONE GOD. and then they were concerned about man’s attempts to build new and wondrous things, such as:
"And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do; and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us (meaning more then one) go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." -- Genesis 11: 6-7
why would a tower built to reach heaven give any concern to a true Supreme Being?
and also ---- like
"And the Lord God said, Behold the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever;" -- Genesis 3: 22
so there was an eye opener for naked adam and naked eve. but there was everlasting life too? and if we did that we'd be what... gods?
a crap load of inconsistancies like
- God placed Man in the Garden of Eden -- then threw him out. In the process, He blessed Man
- He cursed Cain. then he protected him
- Man fell out of favor and wanted to WIPE OFF MANKIND with the DULGE or the flood. but then Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
very inconsistent God -- even one possibly schizophrenic. Either that or there is more then one god.
one that truely cares for mankind and the other wants mankind dead (lord thy god) is the very one that kicked us out eden because we learn knoledge. the same god that allowed the Dulge to kill off mankind.
yet there is the kind god that saved noah and his family. the same kind god told us to eat of the fruit and have knoledge. the same god that wants us to question and have a mind of our own, that same kind god many charistain call the serphant Satan or Lucifer.
it's strange everything that the satan did was IS and has been a benifit of mankind. yet it's the let mankind die in the fucken flood, i will fucken kill you, stone that ----------er Lord thy god that say's satan is the bad guy. no.. it's the other way around..
ripped it a new ------- it did do..
link for those intrested. for a MUCH better chip chopping of the bibble.
http://www.halexandria.org/dward180.htm
the original hewbrew genesis speaks of MORE THEN ONE GOD. and then they were concerned about man’s attempts to build new and wondrous things, such as:
"And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do; and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us (meaning more then one) go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." -- Genesis 11: 6-7
why would a tower built to reach heaven give any concern to a true Supreme Being?
and also ---- like
"And the Lord God said, Behold the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever;" -- Genesis 3: 22
so there was an eye opener for naked adam and naked eve. but there was everlasting life too? and if we did that we'd be what... gods?
a crap load of inconsistancies like
- God placed Man in the Garden of Eden -- then threw him out. In the process, He blessed Man
- He cursed Cain. then he protected him
- Man fell out of favor and wanted to WIPE OFF MANKIND with the DULGE or the flood. but then Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
very inconsistent God -- even one possibly schizophrenic. Either that or there is more then one god.
one that truely cares for mankind and the other wants mankind dead (lord thy god) is the very one that kicked us out eden because we learn knoledge. the same god that allowed the Dulge to kill off mankind.
yet there is the kind god that saved noah and his family. the same kind god told us to eat of the fruit and have knoledge. the same god that wants us to question and have a mind of our own, that same kind god many charistain call the serphant Satan or Lucifer.
it's strange everything that the satan did was IS and has been a benifit of mankind. yet it's the let mankind die in the fucken flood, i will fucken kill you, stone that ----------er Lord thy god that say's satan is the bad guy. no.. it's the other way around..
ripped it a new ------- it did do..
link for those intrested. for a MUCH better chip chopping of the bibble.
http://www.halexandria.org/dward180.htm
This is a pretty poor argument. I just glanced at it enough to realize you've taken pieces out of context and not realizing the whole story. Do you read a book by hitting chapter 9 then on say 3 setences on page 72 and I don't know the first chapter? I can break this down if you really want, but I wanna go back to sleep instead of telling where we got the origin of the word 'Babel' from.
Chris: Excellent point and I've often pondered it also. Nothing could be more horrific than the Halocaust and the rapture never occured then so it's almost a peace time now. Surely, I believe in the rapture, but when......no one knows and that's the idea.
JP
07-09-2007, 02:36 PM
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Re: I hate christians.
Originally Posted by samson
This is a pretty poor argument. I just glanced at it enough to realize you've taken pieces out of context and not realizing the whole story. Do you read a book by hitting chapter 9 then on say 3 setences on page 72 and I don't know the first chapter? I can break this down if you really want, but I wanna go back to sleep instead of telling where we got the origin of the word 'Babel' from.
Chris: Excellent point and I've often pondered it also. Nothing could be more horrific than the Halocaust and the rapture never occured then so it's almost a peace time now. Surely, I believe in the rapture, but when......no one knows and that's the idea.
JP
edit: also i wasn't making an arguement. i was just giving a basic overview of the link i posted earlier regarding Genesis.
also if you want to stay not open minded about things that are anti-bible then by all means stay ignorantly blissfull and god bless.
07-09-2007, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chris
The major issue I have with Christianity is the excitement when terrible acts in nature etc occur that the rapture is near.
Im sorry nothing in our lifetime besides nuclear war will be any more sickening and disturbing then the Jewish holocaust. For gods people they sure get the rough end of the stick. I never got to know half of my family because they were exterminated. The only thing I have is a name that was attempted to never be of life again.
I was watching dateline and they had a bunch of survivors of the holocaust. They described watching their families burned to death and the smell of flesh burning in the air. The conditions that none of us can imagine. A very old polish jew by the name of Schwartz was asked if he noticed a number on his files the ****'s kept on him. His response was I see it everyday. The number is tatooed on his forearm. His answer was simple,yet sweet when asked about how he felt about the number. When I see god all I need to do is show him my arm has its my pass to peace.
Now Christian faith states that for one to enter Heaven one must accept jesus in all forms and has the savior. Now I would love to see a any Christian tell someone like Mr. Schwartz that they will spend there eternity in Hell. Thats my issue. The self righteous idea that some 2 buck ----- who goes to church and wears a cross is worth more than someone of another faith.
If god and his son thinks my family or Mr. Schwartz's family who were so wrongfully battered,beaten, abused and murdered belong in hell than you know what I don't what to know him or his son.
I don't ask for prays from anyone. No one listened 60+ years ago why should it change today. I would of loved to meet the Malecki/Maletsky family but I guess God just didn't care enough to let them live.
Im sorry nothing in our lifetime besides nuclear war will be any more sickening and disturbing then the Jewish holocaust. For gods people they sure get the rough end of the stick. I never got to know half of my family because they were exterminated. The only thing I have is a name that was attempted to never be of life again.
I was watching dateline and they had a bunch of survivors of the holocaust. They described watching their families burned to death and the smell of flesh burning in the air. The conditions that none of us can imagine. A very old polish jew by the name of Schwartz was asked if he noticed a number on his files the ****'s kept on him. His response was I see it everyday. The number is tatooed on his forearm. His answer was simple,yet sweet when asked about how he felt about the number. When I see god all I need to do is show him my arm has its my pass to peace.
Now Christian faith states that for one to enter Heaven one must accept jesus in all forms and has the savior. Now I would love to see a any Christian tell someone like Mr. Schwartz that they will spend there eternity in Hell. Thats my issue. The self righteous idea that some 2 buck ----- who goes to church and wears a cross is worth more than someone of another faith.
If god and his son thinks my family or Mr. Schwartz's family who were so wrongfully battered,beaten, abused and murdered belong in hell than you know what I don't what to know him or his son.
I don't ask for prays from anyone. No one listened 60+ years ago why should it change today. I would of loved to meet the Malecki/Maletsky family but I guess God just didn't care enough to let them live.
