beaker

by far the dumbest ------- thing ive ever heard. now your just trying to turn this into a pissing match of "oh yea....well....". im gonna go ahead and ask for a dyno sheet on that...or else your just full of ----...not saying its not possible, but anybody can say they have a car with xxx power.





and its still a ------- neon

Tom-Guy

Only decently fast (translation: low 11 second timeslips) Evo I've ever seen was stinking of racegas and laid 497 awhp down. GT35R, 1.9 million dollars invested, etc. It probably had a little more in it, but the guy was afraid of launching and shattering transmissions so he only went from 40 rolls. He ran even with some decent pumpgas Honduhs the night I saw it.


Neons fall apart left and right. SRT4's are really a cut above, even if it is based on the Neon platform. The seats are comfy, they are fun to drive, they spool really quick and are super driveable even when you upgrade them to T3/T04Es, and they handle a stinkload of power in mostly stock form aside from somewhat weak axle/input shafts which can be upgraded. ashEVILle is Skittles Breeding Ground, USA, I've been to the streetraces where there were more SRT4s than anything else put together... as in more skittles than everything else domestic put together, more skittles than all the imports put together, and on rare nights over 50% of the cars are skittles.

I was a mild hater on SRT4s when they came out, given what Dodge's porduct through the 90s was, but I have worked on and tuned a few of them now, and have close friends who own them. They are a LOT better than what you seem to think they are.

beaker

ill agree with that.....but i love it when srt4 owners get unbelievably offended when you call it a neon.

Tom-Guy

Oh. I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. I try not to hang out with people like that, and know what you mean... Nothing gets the goat kh

Slo_crx1

Sure, torque spins tires on fwd honda's and Srt-4's...just not on my Evo, the awd helps with that. JD is right, they do have fragile tranny's, so if I ever decided to do anything more than just drive this car my first major cash layout would be to Sheppard. I honestly don't know where this thread went to, but I see it's still the typical honda vs. dsm argument. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but for me personally I'd rather go the dsm route after all my time with honda.

Actually it's not that hard to get those numbers out of an Srt-4. Quite a few local guys around me rockin' mid 300hp srt4's. I almost bought one, but after seeing the resale value opted for the Evo instead.

beaker

read it closer. his whole "torque doesnt win races" comment was ------- stupid. and read what i said again. i know its not hard to get that out of one. but im tired of his ---- talking and want him to back it up with some proof that he actually has done anything other than proving himself to be a fanboy

Slo_crx1

I'm not knocking anything you or he said. It is what it is. As for his hp claims, if he says he made that much, I think I'd believe him. At was at Chris's shop in NJ when he was spankin' out good numbers on a vitara'd y8 and a 13g at nog-boost settings, much higher than what you'd expect out of a tiny 13g.

AMkrew

d15bastard's EG with a d15b went 13.2 at 100mph. That was a really good time for his mph, and I haven't seen much else in that area approach his et's. I guess my point is that 98mph in a dsm might go 13.5, if the driver is not a WUSS and LAUNCHES the car, and actually shifts within 2 seconds of pushing in the clutch. I swear, eclipse/talon/laser drivers are quite possibly the worst drivers EVER... At least the ones I've seen. The dsm Papadakis, Shepherd, is the only great dsm driver.

And that's proven by statistics that prove it.

MustangC.

i have a dyno sheet with 3 300+ wheel torque pulls from my SRT. i dont need to prove ---- to you because your a filty ******. why would i lie about something so stupid?

311 ft/lbs is low for high boost stock turbo SRT's anyways.

i was only ------- around anyways but the truth still remains that a car that makes peak torque early in the power band doesnt make much horsepower and torque early on equalsl lack of top end power. dont get me wrong i loved having torque low in my SRT for daily driving, nothing like stepping on the gas in 3rd and making 20+psi instantly.

ju-on

This made me laugh a little! So others like Rau and Brown just don't cut it eh?