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Old 12-10-2006, 09:35 AM
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Pretty mixed reviews. I haven't dyno'd, and nor is the butt dyno calibrated, but it's faster than it was, duh. I could have spent $1500 and and be pushing 290WHP/275TQish. I could have gone cheaper, but I'm still making payments on this car and drive it everyday so cheap/ghetto vs. right, right won out, plus $1000 was my budget. I'm not going to run max injector duty cycle just to risk running more boost. So yes, it's only 3.6 PSI for now, but the other parts are being rounded up. Yes, it's all chinky Ebay parts, cheap/ghetto maybe, but I didn't use any duck tape, and only a few zip ties .
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:07 AM
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well i'll say that it's definately a solid HMT setup, as long as the turbo and wg aren't ssac.
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Old 12-10-2006, 11:40 AM
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i concur, there's nothing wrong using chinese bovs, wg's and intercooler. And yes, that a pretty neat turbo setup.

i am mostly worried by:

#1 the chinese "turbocharger". They're known to fail just by looking at them.
#2 no timing management. I would really save some money and go with a emanage ultimate for that car. THey even make a plug and play harness for the specV I think.
Too expensive? Well, what about fixing detonation damages on a spec-V?
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:36 PM
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I like the setup.
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Old 12-10-2006, 01:19 PM
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i concur, there's nothing wrong using chinese bovs, wg's and intercooler. And yes, that a pretty neat turbo setup.

i am mostly worried by:

#1 the chinese "turbocharger". They're known to fail just by looking at them.
#2 no timing management. I would really save some money and go with a emanage ultimate for that car. THey even make a plug and play harness for the specV I think.
Too expensive? Well, what about fixing detonation damages on a spec-V?
5 years ago ALL chinese stuff was crap, it'a all a lot better now, but some of it is still crap. I dissambled the WG, it has a molded fabric reinforced silicone diaphragm, good machine work, the turbo is the same, the BOV is a rubber diaphragm, but it's molded, and @ 3.6 PSI it's not really a nessissity. There are 500 ebay vendors selling the same stuff from about 12 diffrent chinese companies. The intercooler I bought is top notch, $98 shipped, I don't care where it's made.

The Stock ECU handles boost very well, the spark and fuel maps are extended way beoynd any air flow values the motor would see in N/A trim. My guess is Nissan created the base maps using an engine dyno in a sealed room where the room pressure could be altered. As far as timing control, there haven't been, as far as I know, any real issues where timing, up to and just past the 300WHP mark, became an issue. Except where someone forgot they had relocated the knock sensor and popped a ring land. Running a draw through MAF setup probably requires a little more concern with ig timing. The IAT sensor is made into the MAF, so with a draw through the air is metered, heated, compressed, cooled down, time passes, then it enters the motor, with a blow through setup the temp and density is more accuratly calculated as far as metering and the timimng values used.

It's not like I'm clamping the voltage on a MAP or MAF to prevent a CEL, or rescaling fuel tables to cover new flow ranges, the ECU is actually mapped to the values it's seeing, both timing and fuel. You can't extend the maps that far w/o actually boosting the motor somehow, I think Nissan did to write the opperating software and maps.It'll won't max out untill about 15PSI, but the stock block is going to have fits at 12 or so, but that's over 300WHP, probably around 320. I can have nissan pull 2* base timing, but some people are running 10PSI +2* w/o problems. The car will actually run fine with 150cc over stock injectors, it relearns quickly, and won't freak but under a few conditions.

I think alot of you guys are running older cars with older ECU's and software, if you broke out a PC from say 1995, it probably wouldn't run this version of moxzilla or explorer. It's a matter of tech improvments. The ECU is a good ECU and the software is excellent.

Thank's for noticing the cleanliness of the setup, that's how I roll.
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Wow, nice and clean build..

I like it much... But how did you get the wastegate to open so soon?

How much boost are you going to have?

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Originally Posted by zorak
Wow, nice and clean build..

I like it much... But how did you get the wastegate to open so soon?

How much boost are you going to have?

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3.6 PSI wastegate spring, it's about as big as I was comfortable going with the stock injector still in, but I think it's time for a MBC to flirt w/ 5PSI, lol. It spools very early, full boost (lol, all 3.5-4 PSI) by 2200 RPMs. Once I get the "stage 2" parts, 8-10PSI max. 8 PSI will make about 270-285WHP and about 260-275WTQ, 10 PSI is over 300, which is stupid considering the short gearing this car has.
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Old 12-10-2006, 02:26 PM
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could have went with the maxima 260 horse engine then boost it :P

N/A http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...d00c51bbba.htm

not super fast but decent, saw someother guy already trying to boost it
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could have went with the maxima 260 horse engine then boost it :P

N/A http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...d00c51bbba.htm

not super fast but decent, saw someother guy already trying to boost it
Don't have that kind of money, end of story. Wouldn't pass OBD II emissions in Ga, turbo will.
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good job on the dp
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