Rod Choices D16Z6
11-26-2007, 07:52 AM
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Rod Choices D16Z6
I want to know what you guys think. Should I go with Eagle rods @ $400.00 or is there a better alternative? I've heard ZC rods will fit... but how much power can they handle. When all is said and done I want to be pushing 230-250. I'll be posting my block and will upgrade the valve train as well. Let the advice flow in.Thanks.
Ok just noticed the vitara pistons post. Where can I source some of those? Is this a direct fit? (stupid question)
Ok just noticed the vitara pistons post. Where can I source some of those? Is this a direct fit? (stupid question)
11-26-2007, 08:04 AM
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Re: Rod Choices D16Z6
Eagle rods do not cost $400.
ZC rods are D16 rods. The early 86-87 were a cruder design that "look" beefier, but if you had a set side by side with any other D16 rod your reaction would be "WTF? What's all the hype about?" They are, at best, good for 0.02 whp more than any other D16 rod and more likely to fail at high RPM.
You need to do a lot more clicking of the search button before you make posts. Not trying to be a dick, but...
ZC rods are D16 rods. The early 86-87 were a cruder design that "look" beefier, but if you had a set side by side with any other D16 rod your reaction would be "WTF? What's all the hype about?" They are, at best, good for 0.02 whp more than any other D16 rod and more likely to fail at high RPM.
You need to do a lot more clicking of the search button before you make posts. Not trying to be a dick, but...
11-26-2007, 08:12 AM
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Re: Rod Choices D16Z6
I did do some researching and according to eagles' site they cost $400 unless you know somewhere to get them for cheaper? I tried the search function on here but no luck. Can you help me on this topic?
11-26-2007, 08:15 AM
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Re: Rod Choices D16Z6
Originally Posted by JoshMO
I did do some researching and according to eagles' site they cost $400 unless you know somewhere to get them for cheaper?
Originally Posted by JoshMO
I tried the search function on here but no luck. Can you help me on this topic?
PS block posting is a failure method.
11-26-2007, 08:18 AM
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Re: Rod Choices D16Z6
I did click on more than one result, actually several pages.
So block posting is a failure method? Can you elaborate on that? According to the tech pages its reliable and according to theoldone.com its reliable. Unless you mean something that I'm not grasping right now.
So block posting is a failure method? Can you elaborate on that? According to the tech pages its reliable and according to theoldone.com its reliable. Unless you mean something that I'm not grasping right now.
11-26-2007, 10:00 AM
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Re: Rod Choices D16Z6
If you read the posting thread on this forum you would know my view of it. Show me one car theoldliar.com has built which recieved any press or ran any better than the average build. Why are all these stock sleeve engines making 450 reliably, and everyone else running sleeves not posts?
11-26-2007, 10:08 AM
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Re: Rod Choices D16Z6
Josh, just look at the other builds and see what they are using. Tuner Toys rods are the least inexpensive, or get Eagle or Scat.
Sleeves crack due to high hp and/or detonation. If you plan on that being your situation then get your block re-sleeved.
Blockgaurd, block posting, or epoxy filling is not going to prevent you from cracking a sleeve or two IMHO.
Sleeves crack due to high hp and/or detonation. If you plan on that being your situation then get your block re-sleeved.
Blockgaurd, block posting, or epoxy filling is not going to prevent you from cracking a sleeve or two IMHO.
11-26-2007, 10:10 AM
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Re: Rod Choices D16Z6
Okay thanks for input guys. I don't plan on making near that much horsepower so I'll just focus on the rods, pistons and valvetrain. While we're on the subject what brand and specs do you recommend for valvetrain upgrade?
11-26-2007, 10:12 AM
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Posting isn't intended to stop sleeves from cracking, its purpose is to keep the sleeves from shifting which can cause gasket failure. Now, it may or may not do this, but I'm just saying that's what the idea is.
11-26-2007, 11:00 AM
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Ya I believe the posting is intended to keep the sleeves from shifting/going oblong, causing gasket failure but I don't think its intended to keep the sleeves from cracking or be a replacement for re-sleeviing. It is however a good cheap method to help strengthen the block a little for someone on a tight budget.
