Ant@Backyardracing

hi guys, noob here! im new to honda but have been tuning/drag racing a small french car for some years and know my way around turbo cars just fine.
i have a question im trying to find some clarity on, id be gratefull for any help.

im trying to find the most powerfull proven d16 on full stock internalls, i.e pistons/rods/sleeves/head everything.
im currently collecting bits for a d16, and am keen to keep the internals stock to prove it real limits, i cant stand changing things on "hearsay" its not my style, and i did very well in the with my other project on full stock internalls much to the supprise of people saying certain componants are only good for xxxbhp.

no predicitions please, and im only really interested in trap speeds, as im sure you know as well as me rollers are hit and miss with figures.

thanx team, like the site, its deffo what im about, thinking rather than just throwing money and hoping.

whiterice

so what bits have you collected.. and what chassis is this going into?

Ant@Backyardracing

hi, just turbo and manifold. (cheap ebay cast mani, and kung-foo turbo (57trim, to4e) i realise the turbo may fail premature but im willing to risk it for the price, plus its not my daily car, just a drag project. and on my last car and had a few garretts fail so i believe turbos (when worked hard 30psi+) arnt reliable full stop! though i did purchase a garret gt series (bb core) in the end which was strong, but im not spending that again. as for chassis i should be picking up a 94` civic esi tommorow. not sure if you have this model in the states (im in the uk).

ososlohatch

drag project and ching chong meow dont belong in the same sentence

Ant@Backyardracing

im sure youve heard of jfk on the turbod16 site.....

Cray91

When people are boosting stock engines that have 160k on em and are 10+ years old there are too many factors to say what the highest level attainable is.

If you did a full rebuild with OE parts who knows what it would be. If you want a lot of power then spend the money if not, then just stay low on the hp

Spenzo

Which D16? Vtec or Non? There have been guys claim to reach 200 with stock guts but don't expect that to last long and Hondas are way different from your french car. Say take a Dodge V6 with stock cast pistons and detonate for months on end no worrys... Detonate that stock aluminum Honda piston once and see ya. Tuning is everything but you can only tune those little weeny honda parts so far they have limits. And I am a Honda guy I love the damn things but lets face it those engines are like little paper engines. I wouldnt suggest drag racing paper machete or using any of that cheap crap on Ebay.

-SKUM-

it all comes down to your tune. Ive run 12lbs on my d16a6 for 3 years. 60/48 turbo ftw!!!!!

nascarfan

define stock internals.....my vitara/ls rod d16 has stock internals just not stock d16 internals
it will go in my sol once the b20 kicks it

Ant@Backyardracing

thanks for the reply peeps, but noones telling me anything ive havnt found by searching. i dont want opinions, only facts please.

the fastest/most powerfull d16 (v-tech or not) full honda internalls. or at least the fastest member from here with full stock setup?

thanks again, ant