max power made on stock internalls d16
04-17-2008, 01:40 PM
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Re: max power made on stock internalls d16
thanks for the link loserkidwac, thats what i was getting at 
that makes you look a little silly edge "220 max stock internalls"comment.
and 13th round, please dont respond on my thread again, there is no need for childish ---- like
that, weve never spoke, so why the hostility? its is not a stupid question i asked, all i am trying to obtain is ACTUAL runs made using full standard honda internalls so i know roughly what to expect(i.e if lots of people had melted pistons at xxxhp etc)and im certainly no idiot as i will prove later in the year with my results.
were all here for the same reason surely, lets the drop the silly comments.
if you dont know the answer to my question, just dont reply, its simple.
and again, thankyou for the info from the helpfull people.
that makes you look a little silly edge "220 max stock internalls"comment.
and 13th round, please dont respond on my thread again, there is no need for childish ---- like
that, weve never spoke, so why the hostility? its is not a stupid question i asked, all i am trying to obtain is ACTUAL runs made using full standard honda internalls so i know roughly what to expect(i.e if lots of people had melted pistons at xxxhp etc)and im certainly no idiot as i will prove later in the year with my results.
were all here for the same reason surely, lets the drop the silly comments.
if you dont know the answer to my question, just dont reply, its simple.
and again, thankyou for the info from the helpfull people.
04-17-2008, 02:00 PM
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Re: max power made on stock internalls d16
if you want to know what the max is there are 2 ways
google it or the hmt way and just find a cheap 16 throw a turbo on and tune it throw it in any random chassis and put it on the dyno and keep turnin up the boost until you see rods and oil everywhere or the turbo can't push any more boost
i think that if you did this and had a live webcam and you could put money on howmuch boost when i blows that would be cool
but in general if you want to know what the max is you gotta do it until it blows then you know where the line is
google it or the hmt way and just find a cheap 16 throw a turbo on and tune it throw it in any random chassis and put it on the dyno and keep turnin up the boost until you see rods and oil everywhere or the turbo can't push any more boost
i think that if you did this and had a live webcam and you could put money on howmuch boost when i blows that would be cool
but in general if you want to know what the max is you gotta do it until it blows then you know where the line is
04-17-2008, 02:23 PM
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Re: max power made on stock internalls d16
Originally Posted by Ant@Backyardracing
hi guys, noob here! im new to honda but have been tuning/drag racing a small french car for some years and know my way around turbo cars just fine.
i have a question im trying to find some clarity on, id be gratefull for any help.
im trying to find the most powerfull proven d16 on full stock internalls, i.e pistons/rods/sleeves/head everything.
im currently collecting bits for a d16, and am keen to keep the internals stock to prove it real limits, i cant stand changing things on "hearsay" its not my style, and i did very well in the with my other project on full stock internalls much to the supprise of people saying certain componants are only good for xxxbhp.
no predictions please, and im only really interested in trap speeds, as im sure you know as well as me rollers are hit and miss with figures.
thanx team, like the site, its deffo what im about, thinking rather than just throwing money and hoping.
i have a question im trying to find some clarity on, id be gratefull for any help.
im trying to find the most powerfull proven d16 on full stock internalls, i.e pistons/rods/sleeves/head everything.
im currently collecting bits for a d16, and am keen to keep the internals stock to prove it real limits, i cant stand changing things on "hearsay" its not my style, and i did very well in the with my other project on full stock internalls much to the supprise of people saying certain componants are only good for xxxbhp.
no predictions please, and im only really interested in trap speeds, as im sure you know as well as me rollers are hit and miss with figures.
thanx team, like the site, its deffo what im about, thinking rather than just throwing money and hoping.
they commonly fail over teh 225 - 250 range but there are many factors and many exceptions. who cares. go try if you make 300 great guess what, no one will really care and someone else has for sure done it before. so what did you prove.
04-17-2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: max power made on stock internalls d16
Originally Posted by edge(eg2)
LMFAO... stock "block" maybe.... internals wont make it past 220
Originally Posted by Ant@Backyardracing
thanks for the link loserkidwac, thats what i was getting at
that makes you look a little silly edge "220 max stock internalls"comment.
and 13th round, please dont respond on my thread again, there is no need for childish ---- like
that, weve never spoke, so why the hostility? its is not a stupid question i asked, all i am trying to obtain is ACTUAL runs made using full standard honda internalls so i know roughly what to expect(i.e if lots of people had melted pistons at xxxhp etc)and im certainly no idiot as i will prove later in the year with my results.
were all here for the same reason surely, lets the drop the silly comments.
if you dont know the answer to my question, just dont reply, its simple.
and again, thankyou for the info from the helpfull people.
that makes you look a little silly edge "220 max stock internalls"comment.
and 13th round, please dont respond on my thread again, there is no need for childish ---- like
that, weve never spoke, so why the hostility? its is not a stupid question i asked, all i am trying to obtain is ACTUAL runs made using full standard honda internalls so i know roughly what to expect(i.e if lots of people had melted pistons at xxxhp etc)and im certainly no idiot as i will prove later in the year with my results.
were all here for the same reason surely, lets the drop the silly comments.
if you dont know the answer to my question, just dont reply, its simple.
and again, thankyou for the info from the helpfull people.
04-17-2008, 06:54 PM
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Re: max power made on stock internalls d16
Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
So you dont want hearsay but you want our hearsay on it? How will this help you at all. your request is very contradictory and personally you dont know dick about this site judging from your tone. Had you read a few posts you would understand that this is a site that does not tolerate retarded Honda-tech style hand holding. the D16 has been boosted many times if you cant find a "benchmark" or something similar for whatever comparisons you want then you sir are a failure. If you have searched Google then what the hell do you expect this website to show you?
they commonly fail over teh 225 - 250 range but there are many factors and many exceptions. who cares. go try if you make 300 great guess what, no one will really care and someone else has for sure done it before. so what did you prove.
they commonly fail over teh 225 - 250 range but there are many factors and many exceptions. who cares. go try if you make 300 great guess what, no one will really care and someone else has for sure done it before. so what did you prove.
there are to menny factors as to the amount of power possible out of that particular engine such as wear, carbon buildup, how close the parts were from the factory and ect. ect. so the only real way to find a number as to howmuch power that particular engine can make on boost is whatever the dyno reads just before it blows up
my guess would be in the range of 225-230whp before the rods give out but i have only worked on a couple d15's and have never opened them up so i don't know much about the strength of the rods i if i am not mistaken they are that powder metal thus they are the weak link
now what is controdictory about that?
04-17-2008, 06:59 PM
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Re: max power made on stock internalls d16
ok thanx guys, i think there is still some confusion here, i really dont want opinion "250hp on a good tune" etc, and i deffo dont want a debate, all i am looking for is specific examples, like the epic tuning car, if you dont know of any please dont respond. i can make my own opinion, you may believe its an un-educated opinion which is fair enough since im a "noob"
thanks again, ant
thanks again, ant
04-17-2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: max power made on stock internalls d16
Originally Posted by cornfuzed
you didn't get what i said a synopsis of what i said is
there are to menny factors as to the amount of power possible out of that particular engine such as wear, carbon buildup, how close the parts were from the factory and ect. ect. so the only real way to find a number as to howmuch power that particular engine can make on boost is whatever the dyno reads just before it blows up
my guess would be in the range of 225-230whp before the rods give out but i have only worked on a couple d15's and have never opened them up so i don't know much about the strength of the rods i if i am not mistaken they are that powder metal thus they are the weak link
now what is controdictory about that?
there are to menny factors as to the amount of power possible out of that particular engine such as wear, carbon buildup, how close the parts were from the factory and ect. ect. so the only real way to find a number as to howmuch power that particular engine can make on boost is whatever the dyno reads just before it blows up
my guess would be in the range of 225-230whp before the rods give out but i have only worked on a couple d15's and have never opened them up so i don't know much about the strength of the rods i if i am not mistaken they are that powder metal thus they are the weak link
now what is controdictory about that?
