accordh22a

with proper tuning an h22 will have no problem running 300hp on stock internals. The iron sleeves to work but why spend the money on them. Yes they will keep your sleeves from being scared form forged pistons but think about it. the liners are very thin, and will not add any strength to the sleeves themselves. Im going to boost mine to 325ish on stock internals. if you want to do it with stock internals, you can not spare any short cuts. get a good tuning sysyem like chrome, uberdata...or my choice hondata. im running hondata s200 and love it. so keep researching the parts, mahle makes a piston for the frm sleeves.

sloganish

i dont mean to revive a fairly old thread, however, i dont want to clog up the forum with a new one...ive been looking into h22 turbo setups for some time now, and i know the story of bad ringlands ect, my budget for a swap will be anywhere from 3500-5500 conservitivley (spelling?) my thoughts as of now are to swap in the h, save money and have it pulled built and boosted, however i dont know how much sleeving/replacing the pistons/various machine shop work will cost me and im not about to try it myself...anyone have input to help me out? and as for "why not just a bseries?" everyone has them, im looking to be more original here, and i want to try soemthing with a little more...displacement.

accordh22a

SEARCH!!! go to honda-tech.com, hondaswap.com and so some searches on h22's etc...but here is a little bit of help...

well the swap from hmotorsonline.com is about 2450 shipped (at least mine was) expect to spend 300-500 to replace parts that may be broken, bad sensors, etc...its always a good idea to have a little bit of money for that. Sleeves will run you any where from 800-1200. Darton, golden eagle are some good companies. pistons and rods will cost you about 1000-1500 depending on the brands you go with. now i know that there are several companies that will sleeve, blueprint, balance, assemble and clean and inspect a motor for about 3000 as long as you provide them with the pistons and rods. I reccomend a good quality shop assemblying motors that way you dont have to worry about filing rings, measuring for clearances and tollenrances and all the other bs. honda has 7 different bearing sizes so you might was well just pay someone else to worry about all that crap.

so in sum
motor= 2450
pistons and rods=1300
assembly=3000
misc=350
turbo=400
ic=250
ic piping=100
exhaust=300
custom turbo mani=200-400
tuning system=free-500
tuner=??400at most

TOTAL: 9450.....this is what it should cost at the most.
bseries in the end will be cheaper, smaller motor = less money, smaller turbo= less money, more readily avaliable parts= less money. stick to a goal and to it!

im gonna turbo my h22.....now please remember that these numbers are only from what i have found...you may find them cheaper...or more expensive. if you go to used parts you will save a lot of money. There are others on there that have probably done this same thing for cheaper that my stated numbers above

aleks77

hmm i only wanna run 300whp, would rods and pistons be enough? also do i need to sleeve the block for the following pistons to work:

Cp Pistons.
-Comp 9.0
-Size- Standard

Crower H Beam Billet Rods

are these good pistons/rods, i can get them both for $700 shipped, new. Thanks!

accordh22a

bro if your goal is 300hp your not even going to need pistons and rods...the stock motor will hold that hp very well. If you were (which I am) to replace the pistons and rods you can NOT use just any forged piston. There are specially coated pistons out there you will need to use.. for example Mahle makes a gold series piston that will work in the h series frm sleeves. Im looking for 350-400 hp with those pistons and eagle rods, arp head studs and rod bolts, as well as total seal piston rings. CP pistons WILL NOT WORK IN A STOCK SLEEVE APPLICATION. crower makes fantastic stuff, but they do make two different types of rods...one for all motor and one for forced induction...make sure you are getting the right ones.

also with pistons remember there are two different sizes of pistons a and b
correct me if im wrong...
a= 87 mm
b= 87.05mm

if all of this is new to you, you really should to more homework and buy a helms manual....they are a god send man.

the sleeves of the h-series are very strong with a good tune...there is a guy on honda-tech.com that had a 536hp h22 with a stock bottom end and cams. it ran for 8 months until a valve dropped and fucked it up for him...this should tell you that tuning is everything!!! get a good standalone like hondata or aem they are great....greddy emanage is also good along with free software like chrome....but i suggest hondata.

good luck

aleks77

hey thanks a lot for that reply ya im very new to turbo/building engines but i want to learn thats why im on homemadeturbo.com i dont just wanna run out and buy a kit and have a shop put it on for me, i want to learn how to make my own and how to install it myself, this site is very informative i love it

I found a tuner locally that has a 500whp boosted h22a, he is the guy im gonna go with im not gonna cheap out on tunning. Thats one of the most important things i learned here! Thanks again for the replies!