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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 11:57 PM
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Default General turboing questions

I'm looking into making a custom turbo setup for my car and I'm confused on wastegate selection amongst other things...

What is better an Internal or External wastegate?

From what I understand External has the wastegate separate from the turbo in the exhaust manifold and Internal has it in/on the turbo?

I am planning on running 10-15 psi, on a slightly built GM V6 engine 3.4L OHV. I am only going to use 9:1 forged pistons w/ p&p and install bigger valves (LS1) and harder valve springs. and maybe look into getting the cam reground since no aftermarket cam is available.

I am looking into making my own custom manifold/headers or just a simple exhaust crossover pipe w/ stock manifolds.

Thanks in advance for the suggestions


Old Oct 15, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Default Re:General turboing questions

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=28135

and

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...;threadid=3921
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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i read the "Please read before posting section"


Anyone have an opinion on wastegates?
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:16 AM
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are you going single/twin turbo? I would use an external wg for several reasons: if you get a turbo with internal wg, it will be less expensive, but most internally wastegated turbos may not have large enough wastegates for your application, causing boost creep... a design using an external wg, properly sized, could allow you to keep more consistent boost levels.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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thank you! that was exactly the type of answer i was looking for.
This will be a single turbo, I'm looking into the best turbo for my application, I figure this will probably be close to the last thing I buy for the setup. To me everyone says use a Garrett T-3/T-4 hybrid, but I'm exploring other possiblities. Looking mostly for something under $500 for a new or rebuilt unit. I havent heard of anyone using something besides the Garrett. I probably will use an internally wastegated turbo (since they are cheaper) and make the block off plate or something and weld an adapter for the external unit.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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i am using a turbonetics t3/t04e 50 trim
Old Oct 18, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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steph,

i am using a Master Power t3/t4 hybrid on my setup.

57 trim, 50 ar cold side
84 ar hot side

boosts VERY nicely.

just pulled a 14.0 @ 106 on saturday. with a NICE exhaust leak on the xover before the turbo. so i guess i found my low end loss problem.

once i get that welded up a mid 13 sec pass is obtainable.

and DONT go over 12 psi on stock/felpro gaskets, they dont last. i had one blow out on me on my last run of the day on saturday, and i had it running 10 psi, but some ****** messed with the boost controller and turned it up to 15psi so i did one run at 15 psi, 2 10psi runs later she was down for the count and puffin white smoke everywhere.

i was pretty happy that we were able to swap out the rear head gasket in less than 4 hours!

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