Askin the pros...
04-14-2007, 11:29 PM
#31
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Re: Askin the pros...
Originally Posted by gen4acclude
dude did you miss the sig at the bottom of my post im a ase master tech, guess they give the patch to every john dick and harry huh there are other reason for obd2 beyond just emissions
When it all boils down to it, yeah...emissions was pretty much the biggest reason for obd2. After '95 emissions laws started getting stricter. Besides, my wrx pops a check engine light if I leave the gas cap off accidently...comes up with some b.s. fuel evap leak code, or it tosses a code for pre-cat o2 sensor when you get low on gas. What do those things have to do with engine performance and how it operates? Absolutely jack-----. I run my boosted b16a off obd0, and after some tweaking just hit 38mpg today with a mix of city and highway driving. ---- emissions, ---- obd2...I'm a straight pipe, open air dump pcv polluting s.o.b. and I don't give a ----.
04-14-2007, 11:31 PM
#32
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Re: Askin the pros...
Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Like I honestly give 2 ***** whether or not you're ASE master tech or not...most of the people that I know who have it as well are morons.
When it all boils down to it, yeah...emissions was pretty much the biggest reason for obd2. After '95 emissions laws started getting stricter. Besides, my wrx pops a check engine light if I leave the gas cap off accidently...comes up with some b.s. fuel evap leak code, or it tosses a code for pre-cat o2 sensor when you get low on gas. What do those things have to do with engine performance and how it operates? Absolutely jack-----. I run my boosted b16a off obd0, and after some tweaking just hit 38mpg today with a mix of city and highway driving. ---- emissions, ---- obd2...I'm a straight pipe, open air dump pcv polluting s.o.b. and I don't give a ----.
When it all boils down to it, yeah...emissions was pretty much the biggest reason for obd2. After '95 emissions laws started getting stricter. Besides, my wrx pops a check engine light if I leave the gas cap off accidently...comes up with some b.s. fuel evap leak code, or it tosses a code for pre-cat o2 sensor when you get low on gas. What do those things have to do with engine performance and how it operates? Absolutely jack-----. I run my boosted b16a off obd0, and after some tweaking just hit 38mpg today with a mix of city and highway driving. ---- emissions, ---- obd2...I'm a straight pipe, open air dump pcv polluting s.o.b. and I don't give a ----.
04-15-2007, 07:22 AM
#34
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Re: Askin the pros...
Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
blaast you sound like a retard. You didn't mention one thing about fuel management or his rods, and that will be the things he needs to worry about the most, not some shitty ebay turbo kit.
(The poor guy says he will have the car tuned by some local shop. Why beating on him with all kinds of fancy tuning details if he decided to have this part of the build profesionaly done? Let's assume whoever this tuner is, that he can live up to his claims and knows what he is doing! )
04-15-2007, 12:22 PM
#35
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Re: Askin the pros...
Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Like I honestly give 2 ***** whether or not you're ASE master tech or not...most of the people that I know who have it as well are morons.
When it all boils down to it, yeah...emissions was pretty much the biggest reason for obd2. After '95 emissions laws started getting stricter. Besides, my wrx pops a check engine light if I leave the gas cap off accidently...comes up with some b.s. fuel evap leak code, or it tosses a code for pre-cat o2 sensor when you get low on gas. What do those things have to do with engine performance and how it operates? Absolutely jack-----. I run my boosted b16a off obd0, and after some tweaking just hit 38mpg today with a mix of city and highway driving. ---- emissions, ---- obd2...I'm a straight pipe, open air dump pcv polluting s.o.b. and I don't give a ----.
When it all boils down to it, yeah...emissions was pretty much the biggest reason for obd2. After '95 emissions laws started getting stricter. Besides, my wrx pops a check engine light if I leave the gas cap off accidently...comes up with some b.s. fuel evap leak code, or it tosses a code for pre-cat o2 sensor when you get low on gas. What do those things have to do with engine performance and how it operates? Absolutely jack-----. I run my boosted b16a off obd0, and after some tweaking just hit 38mpg today with a mix of city and highway driving. ---- emissions, ---- obd2...I'm a straight pipe, open air dump pcv polluting s.o.b. and I don't give a ----.
04-15-2007, 02:46 PM
#36
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Re: Askin the pros...
Tnanks for the help everyone! I have finally decided what im gonna do... When I get the turbo kit, im sellin the turbo on ebay for the price of a real t3/4 
. next, im sellin the peened rods, and getting something better like scat rods. Finally, i am going to buy an ecu, and off I go! With better rods alone, im sure I would hit 300hp because i can run alot more boost. I am just swapping parts to make my setup reliable because this will be my everyday driver. Hope to see (and smoke 
) some of you on the streets! 
. next, im sellin the peened rods, and getting something better like scat rods. Finally, i am going to buy an ecu, and off I go! With better rods alone, im sure I would hit 300hp because i can run alot more boost. I am just swapping parts to make my setup reliable because this will be my everyday driver. Hope to see (and smoke ) some of you on the streets!
04-15-2007, 03:45 PM
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Re: Askin the pros...
Originally Posted by gen4acclude
dude relax being butt hurt over this is not needed but to anwser ur q about the how the codes effect performance and how it runs easy like ---- gas milage will go down and so will power and it nice that you thing im a moron and have never met me, good day to you clown
Hell, any of the obd series pops a cel light and the gas mileage goes down, not just obd2. It has to do with sending it into a "safe" or "limp" mode to try and avoid engine damage. Usually ends up pulling timing and adding fuel to make sure it's on the "safer" side, therefore your power decreases and you gas mileage drops. Where as obd0 has a small limited map scale, obd1 has a larger one (I think 8x8 and 15x15 respectively, but not 100% sure), obd2 steps up to a slightly larger size for fine tuning to increase mileage, power, and reduce emissions. Only problem is obd2 is so highly integrated that under certain conditions even at wot it won't read directly off the map, meaning it acts like it's in part-throttle closed loop almost 100% of the time. There are too many variables tied in with obd2, which is why nobody wants to touch them as far as making an editor for obd2 honda code. I'm not making fun of you or anything you've accoplished in your life (read ASE cert.)...more power to you. Knowledge is power, and it's a shame there aren't more people in the world who take the initiative to learn as much as they can.
04-15-2007, 03:51 PM
#38
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Re: Askin the pros...
Originally Posted by slo_crx1
LMAO...you think I'm gettin' butt hurt over that, that's funny. Hell, any of the obd series pops a cel light and the gas mileage goes down, not just obd2. It has to do with sending it into a "safe" or "limp" mode to try and avoid engine damage. Usually ends up pulling timing and adding fuel to make sure it's on the "safer" side, therefore your power decreases and you gas mileage drops. Where as obd0 has a small limited map scale, obd1 has a larger one (I think 8x8 and 15x15 respectively, but not 100% sure), obd2 steps up to a slightly larger size for fine tuning to increase mileage, power, and reduce emissions. Only problem is obd2 is so highly integrated that under certain conditions even at wot it won't read directly off the map, meaning it acts like it's in part-throttle closed loop almost 100% of the time. There are too many variables tied in with obd2, which is why nobody wants to touch them as far as making an editor for obd2 honda code.
I'm not making fun of you or anything you've accoplished in your life (read ASE cert.)...more power to you. Knowledge is power, and it's a shame there aren't more people in the world who take the initiative to learn as much as they can.
Hell, any of the obd series pops a cel light and the gas mileage goes down, not just obd2. It has to do with sending it into a "safe" or "limp" mode to try and avoid engine damage. Usually ends up pulling timing and adding fuel to make sure it's on the "safer" side, therefore your power decreases and you gas mileage drops. Where as obd0 has a small limited map scale, obd1 has a larger one (I think 8x8 and 15x15 respectively, but not 100% sure), obd2 steps up to a slightly larger size for fine tuning to increase mileage, power, and reduce emissions. Only problem is obd2 is so highly integrated that under certain conditions even at wot it won't read directly off the map, meaning it acts like it's in part-throttle closed loop almost 100% of the time. There are too many variables tied in with obd2, which is why nobody wants to touch them as far as making an editor for obd2 honda code. I'm not making fun of you or anything you've accoplished in your life (read ASE cert.)...more power to you. Knowledge is power, and it's a shame there aren't more people in the world who take the initiative to learn as much as they can.
04-15-2007, 03:57 PM
#39
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Re: Askin the pros...
Originally Posted by gen4acclude
well said that i can respect and this is quashed from my standpoint with that i now have some respect for you i never wanted a pissin match but hay it all part of the game here @ hmt
