b18.

After so much useful information posted in this thread, why in the hell would he listen to you.

MAF FTL, even if it is 'only' slightly rich between shifts.

crx2211

Yeah that's great advice ********. DSM's use a MAF. The ECU interprets the signal from said MAF. Since the BOV lets too much air in when the throttle plate is open; you get issues like stuttering, stalling, backfiring and low idle. Not to mention your mixture goes all wacky which throws your ECU for a loop so to speak. This is an OBDII car, so it really does try and "learn." Once it's ran with the BOV vented for awhile; it'll never go back to being normal again even if you recirculate the BOV. I guess since you're like a raccoon and are atracted to flashy things; doing something this stupid would be right up your alley. Since the guy who owns this car wants nothing else but to have his BOV heard; IB he does vent it on the stock MAF. That would make him as much a as you. Damn African Americans




There is one solution to this "problem" though. Since ricers always want to take the easy route; here it is. Buy a dual port BOV. It lets you recirculate the lion's share of air back to the intake tract, but also lets you vent some to the atmosphere at the same time. It's a total band-aid fix as MAF equipped cars fail by nature, but it's better than venting 100% of the air. Just recirculate the ****** and get a hard intake pipe and hard IC piping; it'll be plenty loud at highish boost levels.

87c10slammer

k we put the new bov on and had it vented into the atomosphere. it ran great. what do you know. it turns out the stuttering and stuff was cause the old stock plastic bov had a huge leak in it. it was where the halves connected. so after we got it all figured out. it doesnt sound half bad. it isnt an insane loud bov it is acually quite ompared to some. now. what would yuo do to make this car haul ***. besides the usuall intake exhuast and bigger turbo. what is a good program to tune with. what about the stand alones you talk about. the car isnt gonna be a daily dragged car more or less daily driven. with a lil power to booot. he wants to be able to beat my chevy fullsize pickup but it aint happenin yet so he is lookin for more power

87c10slammer

sorry didnt read the thread above about dsmlink. i will look into that. it sounds fair enough. and by far the object isnt to butcher the thing. this is a car that he has wanted since it came out. he loves the body style and the fact that he found a turboed one for so cheap with so little miles is even better to him. he paid 4500 for the car it has 65k miles on it and its a 97 so he kinda lucked otu alot. he had a non turboed one for 2 months and got t boned driving home from work one day and after he got a check cut he found this one. he paid 6500 for that one and it had 85k on it. i think the last thing on his mind is to kill it. it is a really nice car inside and out. there are a few minor problems but non that cant be easiely fixxed.

b18.

---- YA'LL I'M GOING BACK TO HONDA TECH

crx2211

Ok well if you let any serious DSMers know that you're venting your BOV on the stock MAF; you'll get laughed off the block. It is a very ricer move and gets you no respect. Just laughed at. It is bad for your car. Essentially what you're saying is, "IDC that my car runs slower and has a wacky mixture during idle, low throttle, and shifts because all I care about is that other people notice me." That is what do, so I guess you're a . You're already off on the wrong foot. I hate to say it, but the car is doomed. Just you wait.

87c10slammer

everything seems to be in spec though. we pluged the hole for the vent with the suplied plug that is nice and shiny lol. it idles fine. doesnt have any crazy surge or puttering. to me it runs like it did when he bought it. only now it sonds alot better just with the intake. the bov only blows off when he lets off the gas all the way. it is made specifically for this car. it is a turboxs bov. i dont knwo what to tell you other then i checked everything out when he bought the car. even before he bought it i had my scanner with me when he went to look at it. i took down the numbers it was running at and i compaired them today. everything is almost exactly the same except for there is a little more gas flowing now. but that changed when we changed the intake. i dont knwo what else to say other then if your right ill be talkin to you soon about how to do everything the right way. i have already told him abou tthe dsmlink and that is now coming before the exhuast as he doesnt want to blow up the car. so that is the next move. mor ethen likely next week. untill then the car will sit.

txdohczc

if he wants a reliable and fast car tell him to sell the mitsu and get something else

2GeclipseRST

FAIL.

Dont touch the ------- car.

This is why you can pick up gst/gsx/tsi's so cheap. People ---- with them and cant quite figure out why they run funny because they vented their bov, put a 3" catback on, and installed an mbc maxing that little t25 out into a ---- hair dryer with 100% stock fueling. Usually these cars are sold as "needs to be tuned" or "needs an maf".

Seriously.

Call buschur racing or road race engineering, hell email shep.... If you dont do what they say, shep will beat you to death with one of his indestructable gearboxes.

Hitchhikkr

X10

Which is not true because the shep boxes def. are not indestructible. Ive seen them destroyed just as easly as a stocker. PM me for more details on what it is exactly that shep does to his transmissions.