87c10slammer

after messing with it a bit and clearing the code just to make sure it wasnt a hickup he still has a cel. it is code p0170. fuel trim malfunction(bank 1) checked the plugs and it seams to be running lean. the plug is almost clean to the point it looks brand new. still havent put the new bov on yet but it seems to be idling funny and missing every once in awhile. we still have it setup just as the diagrame above. at idle it almost sounds like the bov is leaking from around the diaphram when closed so maybe this will clear up tomorrow when we install the new bov. i told him about he gm swap on the maf he kinda doesnt want it to be a hack job so im gonna see what other routes there are but it may just have to be done.

CspecRun

Alot of ppl run the GM maf on those cars, it's not really a hack. It's probaly one of the better options for that car. Do him a favor and check the condition of his timing belt.

txdohczc

plus as long as you do it right and make it loook good it wont be a hack it will be a modification

RedCavz

to the op, dude you're straight ------- retarded.

crx2211

GM MAF and translator box FTL! Using a MAF to "tune" your car is a sure route to fail. If you love having a car that's impossible to get dialed in then I suppose the MAFT is an upgrade for you. You have to hack into your wiring harness to install the box. Not to mention you still have your stock ECU on all stock setting that you have to contend with, so trying to "trick" it with a MAF off a ------- Caprice is officially retarded. Yeah they had their moment back in 2002, but now there are way better alternatives. DSMLINK is simply awesome. Yes, it utilizes the stock ECU still, but it can compensate for larger injectors and has a ---- ton of variable that you can mess with. For $500 you can't get any better. The only problem for the OP who is obviously ; is that he still won't be able to vent his BOV with DSMLINK because it still uses the MAF. The only true way to vent the BOV with no ill effects is to swap over to AEM or a similar standalone, but that's out of the question for these guys. They can't even figure out ridiculously stupid issues, so installing a $1500 standalone and all accompanying sensors is not an option.

The bottom line is that this moron is only concerned about his DSM making a loud woosh. He's not going to do any preventative maintenance and obviously doesn't have the proper knowledge, cash, and intelligence to maintain/upgrade a DSM. We all know that DSM's are very cantankerous, but they are a great platform. Unfortunately they fall into the hands of idiots like this and that furthers their legacy of being unreliable and a pain to work with. In the proper hands a AWD DSM is a street/strip terror and can be very reliable, but in the hands of the unworthy they just fail with the quickness. I estimate 2 months before this guy's DSM is on CL with massive issues and some 18" crome rimzzz.

87c10slammer

if you ------ could read you would see this is just a first step. so ------ what the guy wants his ---- to be loud. who the ---- are you to be the judge of that. to all the people tha twant to be a bunch of **** sucker and are just pissed cause they gotta throw some pos ---- on there car just to make it fast and cause mommy and daddy say theyre to old now and they should have a job and do things for themselves ---- off your just julious cause your ---- is still broke. to the people that accually had a decent cival thing to say thank you for your help. and by the way 98 red cavalier. its a ------ cavalier why are you talkin any kind of ----. thats gotta be the most girlie car i have seen on here.

87c10slammer

once again i said i have never modified a turbo car before. that dosent mean ima ------ idiot. i know the cars potential. i know what can be done i just wanted to know the best route. i would like a honest cival answer thats all. i hate forums where all they do is flame other people. who the ---- cares if you own a crx but wanna swap a 350 sbc and put a procharger on in. to each there own. you seem to be the only one that actually knows what your talkin about so if you could give me a couple links to where i can do my own research.

b18.

crx2211

Fair enough. You should learn to use somewhat legible grammar and punctuation too. Big blocks of text are only tolerable if there are paragraphs and they're legible. Not flaming, just letting you know so you can try and not fail so much. The classic DSM site is:

www.vfaq.com (obviously go to the DSM site, not the Prius)

Then there are the forums. A lot of information on them is crap, so double check what you learn. They are DSMsource (aka DSMtrader), DSMtuners (yikes, but some good info if you know what to look for), then RRE has some useful tech stuff, and then the more selective sites like NABR. DSMLINK forums have good info with less bad info, but you have to have bought DSMLINK to register. DSMLINK is actually a great 1st mod because it lets you log and tune which is pretty much invaluable. Every mod you do will go much farther after you've got DSMLINK up and running. It's ------- stupid to go messing with ---- on a car that you have absolutely no way of seeing what's going on. DSMLINK is $500, and there's nothing even close to as good for less than that. Anyway, good luck, and try your hardest not to butcher that poor thing. Some research for you and a nice punch in the nuts for your buddy should do the trick. Fast/Reliable/Cheap, pick 2.

HondaTechKid

---- yall

im going back to hondatech.