mandrel-bends

We have some new options for manifold builders under development. With a new in house process we have successfully bent 1-1/4" sch 10 stainless bends on a 1D radius (1.660" OD x 1.660" radius). This radius is right between the current short radius (1.50") radius and the long radius (1.875").

I know for a lot of the manifolds we build, having legs on the bends would reduce the cost of building the manifold significantly. Also being able to source the proper bend angles on production manifolds will reduce the fabrication time. Combine that with a tighter radius easing fitment for tough manifolds .. This may drastically affect people's bottom line.

I'll update this thread as things become more concrete in terms of availability and pricing.

Captain Bondo

Oh hell yes! I buy almost $1000 a month in schedule 10, and have been looking ta going to U bends becuase exactly as you say, it could nearly cut the number of piece needed per runner in half.

That's half as much welding and half as much cutting/fitup. That is huge on my bottom line. Definitely keep us posted- if the pricing is even remotely decent (and I know you guys have great pricing on 16ga mandrel bends) I am there.

Smith-02

if you guys get solid bends i bet making a 'weld your own' pre-bent 4-1 ssauto knockoff style would make a few pennies in the pocket

mandrel-bends

We will do our best as we are competing with direct import china in the fittings market, but I would estimate that we will be comparably priced to the current "long" radius elbows. The current "short" radius being 2-3x the cost on average are ludicrously priced.

The elbows (with legs) will be just the cost of material more.

As for copied cdm copied love, one of our fabricators has already been drooling at the idea of doing just that.

Toysrme

Just always remember, you're competing against the midnight special from ace.
I swear to god, love both companies, both have always done me equally right, and Ive had both bend over backwards for me on shipping more than once... But first one to start selling 304 schedule-10 stainless at ace's (or better) pricing and aluminum, AND will sell small sheet aluminum get 100% of mine LoL!


The past year I've been going downtown and getting my schedule-10. Cost more than ace, but I get it when I want it LoL!

mandrel-bends

What is the midnight special? We will be as competitive as possible, but these bends are not available anywhere else so its not really comparing apples to apples. If you need something tighter but don't want to go to the super tight short radius, this is it.

Captain Bondo

I admit it- I buy my sched 10 from ace.

Their "midnight special" is their 1.5" sched 10 elbows. They're pretty much always on sale for around $5.75

The tight radius bends are indeed crazy money. I avoid designs that require them at all costs.

Personally I don't particularly need anything tighter than the long radius bends (although a little tighter would be fine too).

mandrel-bends

Depending upon how well this works, a high production set of dies for the 1.5 sch10 would enable us to at least meet $5.75/each and more then likely blow it out of the water by another 10-30%. The same could be said for the 1.25" sch10 that we are currently bending. (If this proves out and makes sense to drop $20k/set on a production dies for either or both 1.25 and 1.5 sch 10.) We'll just have to see how these do and go from there.

Captain Bondo

So when you say "see how these do", do you mean how they do in your testing, or how they do in terms of interest/sales?

If you have any for sale I'd like to buy some.

BTW I don't know if this is Adam or not, but I am the guy Jonathan from R-Sport International emailed you about. Small world.
I have a 6 cylinder turbo header to do, with fairly small bores/ports, so I wouldn't actually mind using 1.25".

I'd need 20 bends and 8" feet of straight as a start. I don't mean to be pushy though - if it's all still in development that's cool too. PM or emial me if need be.

Thanks!

TomBones

---- to the yeah. I dont build manifolds for a living but I find my self doing more and more latly and any thing to help save a weld and or a few welds would be bitchen.