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Old 01-02-2009, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by turbob16hatch
i was qouted $100 for a 15' line and flex head torch. you forget i live in a small town, where our prices arn't stupid expencise for no reason, hell i bought my new sync 200 runner for $1700 shipped.

I guess this thread was about making a cooler set up not you bitching about buying a premade kit. so get the ---- out the thread. enough said.

have you ever made anything in your life or do you just buy it so it is "perfect". ---- man this is HMT. if i wanted your shitty opinion on buying a $500 cooler then i would have bought one already and saved everyone's time on this thread.
If you weld as much as you say you do, you will likely want a higher quality torch, flex head torches don't often carry a %100 duty cycle and wear out and leak pretty easily.
I'd recommend a torch like this:
http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...cPath=13_18_25
Also 12-15' torches can be pretty limiting, especially if you weld directly on vehicles. But if you can make it to work it does save a bit of money (I think around $50 cheaper than a 25').

I understand you want to make your kit and all that, I am just saying that you aren't going to get a decent torch and cooler all done up for less than $582 IF YOUR TIME is worth anything to you and you are at all practical and efficient.

I actually make lots of things in my life, I've built houses, I wired my whole last shop, I wire in all my machines, I cnc machine all my own parts, I do all my own engine machining, head porting, I've built a flow bench, I am building an automated tig welding machine with cold wire feeder right now. I've installed my own automotive hoists, I make lots of custom machined specialty tools, tubular manifolds, exhausts, tons of sanitary process piping, built large brewing systems... I could go on all day. But one thing I don't do is build parts or equipment that someone else does for cheaper than I can make a similar quality unit for. But my time has a $ figure attached to it. So should yours if you want to learn how to save money.




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Old 01-02-2009, 03:33 AM
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As bad as it is, my ghetto *** just runs the hose to mine, and a drain hose out of the shop. I only tig maybe 5 hrs a week though.
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You know you could go real expensive and have TWO heatercores!
And copper piping!
And um... LED fans!
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Old 01-02-2009, 03:40 AM
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You know the one thing you'd be missing that all pro torch coolers have?
Badass twirling flow-meter so you know the pump is working without a blockage... Ofcorse... You'd pretty much know that anyway provided you were anywhere near the torch....

I Got you covered!

Aquarium flow meter!

Ya... Doesn't spin around all kewl like a miller one. But think about how many LED's you can put in that! Be sure to use that UV dye too so you can do some UV CCFL's!
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Passenger
If you weld as much as you say you do, you will likely want a higher quality torch, flex head torches don't often carry a %100 duty cycle and wear out and leak pretty easily.
I'd recommend a torch like this:
http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...cPath=13_18_25
Also 12-15' torches can be pretty limiting, especially if you weld directly on vehicles. But if you can make it to work it does save a bit of money (I think around $50 cheaper than a 25').

I understand you want to make your kit and all that, I am just saying that you aren't going to get a decent torch and cooler all done up for less than $582 IF YOUR TIME is worth anything to you and you are at all practical and efficient.

I actually make lots of things in my life, I've built houses, I wired my whole last shop, I wire in all my machines, I cnc machine all my own parts, I do all my own engine machining, head porting, I've built a flow bench, I am building an automated tig welding machine with cold wire feeder right now. I've installed my own automotive hoists, I make lots of custom machined specialty tools, tubular manifolds, exhausts, tons of sanitary process piping, built large brewing systems... I could go on all day. But one thing I don't do is build parts or equipment that someone else does for cheaper than I can make a similar quality unit for. But my time has a $ figure attached to it. So should yours if you want to learn how to save money.




We're talking about pushing water through a tube and this is HMT. You should be able to make something for under 50 dollars with a trip to the junk yard...
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:11 PM
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Yeah I get that this is HMT, notice I was the first person to mention running total loss system using your garden hose, how much more ghetto do you want to get?

Oh and another thing to look out for are used coolers on ebay. They can come up for under $150 now and again for the non big name ones like miller and binzel (same cooler really).
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Yeah. I understand where you're coming from with the economic costs, but we let simple pride get in the way of considering that our time is more valuable doing something else.
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torch coolers run 60psi for proper cooling of the torch. That will be tough to accomplish with a junkyard/hardware store set up.
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you know this as fact, or are you just running your mouth?

need to know so i can get this set up.
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I half agree with Passenger and half disagree. Since the OP welds a decent amount, he should end up with a product that is built well and isn't some ghetto fab hunk of ----. In the same breath, there is nothing keeping the OP from making a high quality part himself and saving some money. Running cool water through a tig torch isn't science. It's a water pump, a radiator, tank, and a fan. Not much you can do wrong.
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